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Old 09-02-2019, 07:14 AM
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So why not be extra extra cautious and close everything as soon as a tropical depression, that could turn into a hurricane that could hit Florida occurs. Or better yet, since this is hurricane season, why not just close everything beginning in mid August until the snowbirds all come back.

Again, the question is how cautious have they been and how cautious should they be. No one is saying that facilities shouldn't be closed at some point, but we all moved here because of the lifestyle. We pay for these facilities and should be able to use them as much as possible. No one has had major impact on their lives by closing them but that is not the question. The question is were they closed to early and I believe that they were.

The only thing gained by closing a pool and rec center is that The Villages didn't have to pay employees for those days. Someone mentioned giving the employees time off to prepare for the storm. Has anyone considered that some of these employee might need the extra five days pay that they're going to lose?

And how long does it take to prepare for these things anyway. We should all be 80% prepared anyway. Pull the lawn furniture inside. That's got to take whole hour. Fill the cars with gas. Another hour. What else does anyone do?
This is pretty ridiculous.

First off, TV has a resposibility to get the work done and the workers out of harms way before the storm hits. Not everything in life is about money.

Second, if staff did not make decisions erring on the side of caution, many of the same people complaining about early closures would be criticizing their lack of judgment.

They have a thankless job. How about giving them a break.
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The rec centers will only be closed for 3 days (sun, mon, tues). I would guess that it simply isn't worth the effort to reverse course and reopen any earlier and shutting down starting Sunday was the prudent thing to do considering the forecast when they made the announcement. There is obviously some planning that took place and employees have probably made plans based on the announced 3 day closure. They clearly pulled the trigger based on the best available information and will see their plans through and you really can't fault the management for this.

The announcement to keep the executive courses closed through Friday is a good one. We may see up to 5 inches of rain and keeping people off the courses is a good idea.

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So why not be extra extra cautious and close everything as soon as a tropical depression, that could turn into a hurricane that could hit Florida occurs. Or better yet, since this is hurricane season, why not just close everything beginning in mid August until the snowbirds all come back.

Again, the question is how cautious have they been and how cautious should they be. No one is saying that facilities shouldn't be closed at some point, but we all moved here because of the lifestyle. We pay for these facilities and should be able to use them as much as possible. No one has had major impact on their lives by closing them but that is not the question. The question is were they closed to early and I believe that they were.

The only thing gained by closing a pool and rec center is that The Villages didn't have to pay employees for those days. Someone mentioned giving the employees time off to prepare for the storm. Has anyone considered that some of these employee might need the extra five days pay that they're going to lose?

And how long does it take to prepare for these things anyway. We should all be 80% prepared anyway. Pull the lawn furniture inside. That's got to take whole hour. Fill the cars with gas. Another hour. What else does anyone do?
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:17 AM
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Closed way to quickly. Everything closed for a week is ridiculous.
And what are you missing?
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:27 AM
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Agree. Also- this is Labor Day weekend. Getting things taken care of before people have a long weekend off work was the way to go. We didn't know on Friday what we know now. Not everyone who works here lives here. And even if they do-employees had properties of their own to think about. I think it was a thoughtful and courteous decision for them. But- if you want to know for sure, call Customer Service. They'll direct your questions.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:45 AM
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So why not be extra extra cautious and close everything as soon as a tropical depression, that could turn into a hurricane that could hit Florida occurs. Or better yet, since this is hurricane season, why not just close everything beginning in mid August until the snowbirds all come back.

Again, the question is how cautious have they been and how cautious should they be. No one is saying that facilities shouldn't be closed at some point, but we all moved here because of the lifestyle. We pay for these facilities and should be able to use them as much as possible. No one has had major impact on their lives by closing them but that is not the question. The question is were they closed to early and I believe that they were.

The only thing gained by closing a pool and rec center is that The Villages didn't have to pay employees for those days. Someone mentioned giving the employees time off to prepare for the storm. Has anyone considered that some of these employee might need the extra five days pay that they're going to lose?

And how long does it take to prepare for these things anyway. We should all be 80% prepared anyway. Pull the lawn furniture inside. That's got to take whole hour. Fill the cars with gas. Another hour. What else does anyone do?
So a few people have lost a couple of extra days of amenities that they "paid for" (plus of course, ALL those other things that are part of those amenity fees...that are unaffected)...yet you admit it hasn't had a major impact on anyone.

What it really boils down to then, is the fact that none of the complainers have a clue as to the logistics/planning/contingencies needed to make those changes, much less the same to reverse them...and then implement a couple of days later instead.

Having made a career of planning large projects, with a plethora of moving parts, I can tell you...that it doesn't work nearly as easy as you wish it did.

TV made the decision based on the best info they had at the time and now that the projection has changed...the 'experts' come out and play Monday morning quarterback.

You'll live with missing a couple of days of free executive golf...so chill.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:46 AM
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Looks like Dorian is turning East and will only skim the Florida coast sometime Tuesday or Wednesday. With Rec centers, golf courses, pools and entertainment all cancelled, do you think TV pulled the trigger too soon?
Absolutely not.... I think they do a great job and as a person who is watching the ongoing’s from New York State it gives me great comfort knowing they’re doing the best they can in preparing for the worst scenario.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:52 AM
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The Villages has little to fear from a hurricane due to are large distance from either coast. Tornadoes are a danger to us, but not hurricanes.
Based on...…………?
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:08 AM
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Sorry to have stuff cancelled but good to be safe and lucky dogs to miss the action
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:21 AM
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Winds can topple trees, and it doesn’t have to be a very strong wind...trees falling have been known to destroy homes, injure and even kill people, the upper right quadrant of a hurricane is where tornado formation can take place. Any hurricane going up the state may not be a CAT 4 or 5, but it could be rain maker and flooding is not beyond the realm of possibility. Winds can cause objects to become fast moving projectiles. It’s probably better to never make any statement about since it’s never happened, why should it happen now. Mother Nature has a mind of her own and sometimes she can be nasty.

Getting ready might be easy for many, but there are some individuals living in our community who are less able to prepare in a short time. While many might always have plenty of food available to carry them over for an extended period, not all do or can do. Some older individuals might not totally comprehend potential or impending danger.

What does this have to do with the topic...did TV act too soon? They didn’t. Workers may need to help their family, neighbors, friends prepare. It is NOT the fault of TV that this particular storm is being so slow in its trek.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:27 AM
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Looks like Dorian is turning East and will only skim the Florida coast sometime Tuesday or Wednesday. With Rec centers, golf courses, pools and entertainment all cancelled, do you think TV pulled the trigger too soon?
Pulling the trigger to fast. I think we should think pulling the trigger a little fast is a little better than to late. Could you wonder if they would of said nothing or just a day in advance. There would of been a lot of upset people.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:28 AM
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Yes! They could have waited until later like other companies/stores have done, but then again they wouldn't have had a 5 day vacation. Now we know we are not having any issue and everything is closed.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:30 AM
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Yes! They could have waited until later like other companies/stores have done, but then again they wouldn't have had a 5 day vacation. Now we know we are not having any issue and everything is closed.
And what is it you are implying?
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:34 AM
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The Federal Government gives their employees notice late the night before as to whether they are to come in to work the next day or not in situations like this.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:38 AM
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The Federal Government gives their employees notice late the night before as to whether they are to come in to work the next day or not in situations like this.
Same way with schools. I remember my senior year at St. Petersburg High in '68 we got a day off for a hurricane. It was probably the nicest day of the year, those with cars went to the beach.
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