[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Peachbelle

If you notice before you enter a roundabout there is a diagram street sign on what to do. Let's review; if you enter from the right lane you can ONLY take the 1 or 2nd exit! NOT THE 3RD! If you take the 3rd exit and cause an accident its YOUR FAULT!
To use the 3RD EXIT YOU MUST ENTER FROM THE LEFT LANE! LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM BEFORE ENTERING PEOPLE IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OBEY TRAFFIC SIGNS OR YOU WILL BE AT FAULT!

Reminders are always welcome. Thank you!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave

I love the people that honk when it wasn't even close.
Fake outrage!

Must have seemed worse from their perspective. In future, may I suggest you allow more room and use your turn indicator to advise them of your intention before you make your move. Then, everyone can have a nice day. 😀

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

A bit of an assumption there.

How about people drive right and mind their own business? If I'm not improperly impeding you then give it a break! If you believe you have the right to impede me (lane sheriffing, being extra cautious, being extra considerate, STOPPING IN A ROUNDABOUT), you're wrong, that's illegal, and you need to get off the road. THEN everyone can have a nice day.

Under Normal circumstances stopping in a roundabout and on the interstate would be illegal. But, to stop to avoid colliding with another vehicle is certainly advisable. Unless, of course, you are recommending endless pile-ups, injuries and death?
As for minding my business, anyone who drives in a manner that endangered me or others, ignores laws a safety, or minds my business, has made it my business. Maybe, instead of telling me or others with safety concern to get off the road, those who display distain for laws and safety, courtesy and patience need to get off the road so everyone truly can have a nice, safe and relaxing day.

[Vickim]

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234

Being fairly new, I didn't know that roundabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the roundabouts at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

Update
We were both in the left lane, he was behind me. Another car was in the right lane and was much slower. All 3 cars went straight or 2nd exit. As soon as the slower car slowed more the car behind me floored it to cut them off, get on my bumper and in a matter of 1 exit passed me. I was doing 20-25mph which I consider a very tolerable speed. Some people are simply jerks I guess. Luckily I caught him at Meggison and 44 and just smiled.

I don’t know about all this! But, in what world do you make a left turn from a right lane ? People that continue in the roundabouts to the third exit crossing the “broken line” that is broken for people entering the roundabout !cutting people off ! really need to look at the diagram on how you exit a roundabout ! Have had too many close calls! enough to know NEVER be right beside another car in them !

[mciboroTamarindo]

C'mon
lets just say it.
Speed limits, stop signs, red lights.. they do not apply here in TV.
the double lane roundabouts are a problem. Stop asking who has the right of way.

[JMintzer]

Another "This one time at Band (Round-a-Bout) Camp" thread...

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Vickim

I don’t know about all this! But, in what world do you make a left turn from a right lane ? People that continue in the roundabouts to the third exit crossing the “broken line” that is broken for people entering the roundabout !cutting people off ! really need to look at the diagram on how you exit a roundabout ! Have had too many close calls! enough to know NEVER be right beside another car in them !

Let us try to make sense of the RB.
Imagine a standard 4 lane intersection. Right lane goes right or straight. Left lane goes straight or turns left.
To make the left turn requires that turner cross both lanes of opposing traffic. This positions the turning vehicle at right angle to cross both lanes.
BUT, in a round about variation of that intersection.right goes as before, right exit or straight on.
BUT, left lane straight on is as before. The trouble is when you want to exit "left" or exit 3.
If you continue around until you reach exit 3, you now have to cross from lane 1, across lane 2 to get to exit 3. There may already be traffic that pushed in behind or alongside in lane 1. Dangerous situation. Continue around and try again.
Option. Where lane 1 would normally go straight on, before exiting, it has to cross lane 2. The broken line allows a left into lane 1. Using signal warns oncoming drivers not yet in the RB that you will be passing in front and they should yield so you can exit. You will be making a right turn now from lane 1, and not playing frogger to get to exit 3, your exit 3.
Whatever you do, always be careful and aware of the traffic around you. Stay safe

[Bogie Shooter]

[QUOTE=fdpaq0580;2415916]Let us try to make sense of the RB.
Imagine a standard 4 lane intersection. Right lane goes right or straight. Left lane goes straight or turns left.
To make the left turn requires that turner cross both lanes of opposing traffic. This positions the turning vehicle at right angle to cross both lanes.
BUT, in a round about variation of that intersection.right goes as before, right exit or straight on.
BUT, left lane straight on is as before. The trouble is when you want to exit "left" or exit 3.
If you continue around until you reach exit 3, you now have to cross from lane 1, across lane 2 to get to exit 3. There may already be traffic that pushed in behind or alongside in lane 1. Dangerous situation. Continue around and try again.
Option. Where lane 1 would normally go straight on, before exiting, it has to cross lane 2. The broken line allows a left into lane 1. Using signal warns oncoming drivers not yet in the RB that you will be passing in front and they should yield so you can exit. You will be making a right turn now from lane 1, and not playing frogger to get to exit 3, your exit 3.
Whatever you do, always be careful and aware of the traffic around you. Stay safe


And you expect who, to understand this…….

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

And you expect who, to understand this…….

Oh, I think I understand it. He is yet again recommending that drivers change lanes while in the roundabout. Dangerous and wrong but he is insistent.

[fdpaq0580]

[QUOTE=Bogie Shooter;2415920]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Let us try to make sense of the RB.
Imagine a standard 4 lane intersection. Right lane goes right or straight. Left lane goes straight or turns left.
To make the left turn requires that turner cross both lanes of opposing traffic. This positions the turning vehicle at right angle to cross both lanes.
BUT, in a round about variation of that intersection.right goes as before, right exit or straight on.
BUT, left lane straight on is as before. The trouble is when you want to exit "left" or exit 3.
If you continue around until you reach exit 3, you now have to cross from lane 1, across lane 2 to get to exit 3. There may already be traffic that pushed in behind or alongside in lane 1. Dangerous situation. Continue around and try again.
Option. Where lane 1 would normally go straight on, before exiting, it has to cross lane 2. The broken line allows a left into lane 1. Using signal warns oncoming drivers not yet in the RB that you will be passing in front and they should yield so you can exit. You will be making a right turn now from lane 1, and not playing frogger to get to exit 3, your exit 3.
Whatever you do, always be careful and aware of the traffic around you. Stay safe


And you expect who, to understand this…….

Not you. Unfortunately I don't know how to draw in the reply area. That would have made it simple ... like me. 🤓
Just remember to be safe, careful and kind. You'll be fine.
😉

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Oh, I think I understand it. He is yet again recommending that drivers change lanes while in the roundabout. Dangerous and wrong but he is insistent.

If you enter the RB from lane 1 road, how do you reach center lane in the RB without going thru/transitioning thru RB lane 2, the outer lane? Magic?
Once in RB lane 1, the inner lane, how can you exit at 2nd or 3rd exit without going thru/transitioning thru RB lane 1. Can't be done unless you can fly.
All I am sugesting is to prepare for and begin the first part of the transition, crossing the broken line that gets you into lane 2 before reaching entering traffic, making your exit smoother, simpler and safer for all.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

If you enter the RB from lane 1 road, how do you reach center lane in the RB without going thru/transitioning thru RB lane 2, the outer lane? Magic?
Once in RB lane 1, the inner lane, how can you exit at 2nd or 3rd exit without going thru/transitioning thru RB lane 1. Can't be done unless you can fly.
All I am sugesting is to prepare for and begin the first part of the transition, crossing the broken line that gets you into lane 2 before reaching entering traffic, making your exit smoother, simpler and safer for all.

I believe your “safer for all” is the near accident described by OBB in another thread.

Safer for all would be following the signs, the recommendations, and the logic that all say DO NOT CHANGE LANES WHILE IN A ROUNDABOUT.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

DO NOT CHANGE LANES WHILE IN A ROUNDABOUT.

Can't be done if you use the center lane. Two words: I'm possible.
One can not get into lane 1 without traveling at least some distance in lane 2.
One can not exit the RB from lane 1 without traveling at least some distance in lane 2.
Guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Can't be done if you use the center lane. Two words: I'm possible.
One can not get into lane 1 without traveling at least some distance in lane 2.
One can not exit the RB from lane 1 without traveling at least some distance in lane 2.
Guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

“I’m possible” is three words and makes absolutely no sense in context.

You *might* argue that you need to cross the oncoming lane in order to turn left (take the third exit), which is exactly why the signs and recommendations are what they are, but you don’t have to travel in that lane to cross it, (yes, of course your tires are on the pavement of the lane as you cross it but you do not travel in the same direction that vehicles which are actually *in* that lane travel)

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

“I’m possible” is three words and makes absolutely no sense in context.

You *might* argue that you need to cross the oncoming lane in order to turn left (take the third exit), which is exactly why the signs and recommendations are what they are, but you don’t have to travel in that lane to cross it, (yes, of course your tires are on the pavement of the lane as you cross it but you do not travel in the same direction that vehicles which are actually *in* that lane travel)

First. I hope you are getting to see the lunar eclipse.
Second. My bad. It was supposed to be im possible. Not I'm. Bad attempt at an old joke. Auto correct strikes again.
Now, if you turn your car to exit, it does not instantly adopt a 90 degree position across lane 2. It is lane change. A kind of "swooping" lane change that allows you to reach lane 1 or 2 of the exit. Ever see eager beaver in lane 2 of an entrance punch it when he thinks the car in RB lane 1 is continuing on. Only to be totally shutdown when the driver in the center of the RB turns right to exit. I see it all the time. And both parties are PO'd feeling the other was to blame. Hotrod eager beaver vs last second Lou. Scary!