[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I don't know about 3 mph, but I have seen slow and stopped. There is usually a good reason for it that I can't see from my vantage point. Usually, they are driving as needed to avoid an accident. Caution! SAFETY FIRST!

Let's see--in 11 years here I've seen very slow and stopped in a RB over a hundred times or more, and maybe once or twice for an accident--so I dispute "usually". "Usually", they are someone who can't see over their steering wheel, were born during Andrew Jackson's second term, and needed to turn their license in 15 years ago.

[MicRoDrafting]

TOTALLY AGREE with
“the Worse Drivers STOP …”

See this Situation Constantly at the West End of El Camino Real where it meets Buena Vista Blvd, where it backs up at least a 1/2 dozen Vehicles in Both Lanes in the afternoon !!

This is Besides Constantly Witnessing Vehicles Coming to a ‘COMPLETE STOP’ at a YIELD SIGN even though NOBODY is in the Roundabout or Simply Entering from the Northbound Side of Buena Vista !!

Please Correct me
IF I am Wrong, but

I was taught that “YIELD” simply
means “ Proceed with Caution”

In Other Words,
Break Out of ‘Tunnel Vision’ Mode and
LQQK to the LEFT as you APPROACH …

… same Exact Method as when
using a typical “Merging Lane”

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MicRoDrafting

TOTALLY AGREE with
“the Worse Drivers STOP …”

See this Situation Constantly at the West End of El Camino Real where it meets Buena Vista Blvd, where it backs up at least a 1/2 dozen Vehicles in Both Lanes in the afternoon !!

This is Besides Constantly Witnessing Vehicles Coming to a ‘COMPLETE STOP’ at a YIELD SIGN even though NOBODY is in the Roundabout or Simply Entering from the Northbound Side of Buena Vista !!

Please Correct me
IF I am Wrong, but

I was taught that “YIELD” simply
means “ Proceed with Caution”

In Other Words,
Break Out of ‘Tunnel Vision’ Mode and
LQQK to the LEFT as you APPROACH …

… same Exact Method as when
using a typical “Merging Lane”

Happens all the time, drivers confused as to the meaning of yield. It's similar to the cyclists who think "stop" and "yield" have no meaning whatsoever. I think all drivers in TV should be required to drive on Long Island for 3 months---the few that survive can move back here

[Grinchie]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Let us try to make sense of the RB.
Imagine a standard 4 lane intersection. Right lane goes right or straight. Left lane goes straight or turns left.
To make the left turn requires that turner cross both lanes of opposing traffic. This positions the turning vehicle at right angle to cross both lanes.
BUT, in a round about variation of that intersection.right goes as before, right exit or straight on.
BUT, left lane straight on is as before. The trouble is when you want to exit "left" or exit 3.
If you continue around until you reach exit 3, you now have to cross from lane 1, across lane 2 to get to exit 3. There may already be traffic that pushed in behind or alongside in lane 1. Dangerous situation. Continue around and try again.
Option. Where lane 1 would normally go straight on, before exiting, it has to cross lane 2. The broken line allows a left into lane 1. Using signal warns oncoming drivers not yet in the RB that you will be passing in front and they should yield so you can exit. You will be making a right turn now from lane 1, and not playing frogger to get to exit 3, your exit 3.
Whatever you do, always be careful and aware of the traffic around you. Stay safe

In England, the RABs were
always single lanes. Would it be practicable to have single lanes here ? It would, at least, stop most RAB accidents. Do we need double lanes ?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by MicRoDrafting

TOTALLY AGREE with
“the Worse Drivers STOP …”

See this Situation Constantly at the West End of El Camino Real where it meets Buena Vista Blvd, where it backs up at least a 1/2 dozen Vehicles in Both Lanes in the afternoon !!

This is Besides Constantly Witnessing Vehicles Coming to a ‘COMPLETE STOP’ at a YIELD SIGN even though NOBODY is in the Roundabout or Simply Entering from the Northbound Side of Buena Vista !!

Please Correct me
IF I am Wrong, but

I was taught that “YIELD” simply
means “ Proceed with Caution”

In Other Words,
Break Out of ‘Tunnel Vision’ Mode and
LQQK to the LEFT as you APPROACH …

… same Exact Method as when
using a typical “Merging Lane”

The worst drivers don't stop. They have collisions.

"Poceed with caution" is a different sign used when a road may be rough or damaged but is still passable if you are very careful.
"YIELD" means you do not have the right of way and must give way to others, slowing down or stopping, if necessary, until it is safe for you to proceed. It means you can't impeed drivers already in the RB.
In the days of Olde, when knights were bold, "I yield" meant "I give up", and they dropped their sword and stopped fighting.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Grinchie

In England, the RABs were
always single lanes. Would it be practicable to have single lanes here ? It would, at least, stop most RAB accidents. Do we need double lanes ?

Sadly, people here see driving as a competition. Trying to get folks to be fair in sharing the road is difficult. Everyone thinks they should go first, wedge out the other drivers so the person who should be next is forced to give way to the pushy ones. Rather than moving things smoothly, single lane RBs would cause backups and even more frustration.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Sadly, people here see driving as a competition. Trying to get folks to be fair in sharing the road is difficult. Everyone thinks they should go first, wedge out the other drivers so the person who should be next is forced to give way to the pushy ones. Rather than moving things smoothly, single lane RBs would cause backups and even more frustration.

But more importantly, a single lane RB would mean that the 2 lanes of BV, Morse, Meggison and others would have to merge into one lane prior to the RB——talk about backups as well as the “me first” merging mentality you mentioned