[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topgun 1776

Incorrect. You get ONE lane to turn from and ONE lane to go into. If there are multiple lanes on the roadway being entered, if you are turning from the far most left lane, you must enter the far most left lane of the roadway you are entering. You don't get your choice of lanes to turn into. Period.

Incorrect. Period.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

You can be ticketed for making a turn into any lane different from the one from which your turn started. After you complete the turn, signal to change lanes. Common sense dictates this method reduces accidents.

Incorrect. Read the FL law posted earlier in the thread...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by dlspiess

Unless the person is making a right turn on red. Then they must yield but if they have the green also then the left turn must yield. This is everywhere I believe

The entire point of this thread is that the OP was making a left turn with a GREEN ARROW. This means the other driver WAS making a RIGHT TURN ON RED...

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by djlnc

It's good that they specify the right turner is supposed to stay in the right lane. Now if they would only correct it so the left turner has to stay in the left lane all would be hunky dory.

right turners on red HAVE to yield, that means don’t pull out in front of traffic. Why is it so hard people don’t know what yield means.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Danube

Nope.
The car turning right had a red light since the OP (turning left) had a green arrow.

Really, this isn't complicated.

Unfortunately, more than a few posters are making this complicated. They wand to be "right" rather than be correct...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by JustSomeGuy

The statue starts with right turns and what is legal. That was left out.

If my understanding is correct, the other car was in front of you as you were turning left. If that is the case and he was making a right turn on red into the right lane, then that lane was no longer available for you to "lawfully enter" since he was entitled to use that lane to complete his turn. You could have slowed down and entered behind him safely. Any other interpretation would cause the driver legally entitled to the right lane to wait for all left turning drivers before he turns.... that defeats the reason for permitting right turns on red on to a roadway with two or more lanes.

You were turning into a lane he was already legally occupying. That lane was no longer legally available to you due to his right turn on red starting before your left turn.


316.151 Required position and method of turning at intersections.—
(1)(a) Right turn.—The driver of a vehicle intending to turn right at an intersection onto a highway, public or private roadway, or driveway must:
1. Make both the approach for a right turn and a right turn as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway.
2. When overtaking and passing a bicycle proceeding in the same direction, give an appropriate signal as provided for in s. 316.156 and make the right turn only if the bicycle is at least 20 feet from the intersection, and is of such a distance that the driver of a vehicle may safely turn.
(b) Left turn.—
1. The driver of a vehicle intending to turn left at an intersection onto a highway, public or private roadway, or driveway must approach the intersection in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of such vehicle and must make the left turn so as to leave the intersection in a lane lawfully available to traffic moving in such direction upon the roadway being entered.

Your understanding is wrong.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by JRcorvette

I believe that when making a Left your are to stay in the far Left lane on the road that you are entering. Many people end up in the right lane and yes there could be an accident with people making a Right onto the same street. That said the people making a Right should always yield to those making a Left… ok got that?

Read the entire thread. It explains why you are incorrect...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Danube

You are right again. And you're backed-up by Statute (like the driver's handbook clearly states).

But I now see it's hopeless trying to convince some people, even with written evidence. Even former law enforcement is mistaken, think about that.

Bizarre, innit?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by djlnc

It's good that they specify the right turner is supposed to stay in the right lane. Now if they would only correct it so the left turner has to stay in the left lane all would be hunky dory.

No, the car making the "right in red" still has to yield to the legal left turn on a green arrow...

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

If your left turn lane had a GREEN left turn light, then you had the right of way.

But if you didn't have a left turn light, OR if your left turn light was not green, then you did NOT have the right of way.

All those other laws posted in this thread only apply to lefts and rights where there is no traffic signal to specify that a person turning left may now go. When there's a traffic signal indicating a left turn, then that left turn has the right of way.

Whomever has the right of way does not mitigate the requirement to use judgement and care. Also, timing could affect the result. The car turning right does not have a view of the arrow for the car turning left. Mr. Right Turn, stops, sees no impediment, and executes his start of right turn. Mr. Left Turn's light changes and he starts his turn simultaneously. Mr Left Turn now has the best visibility and should yield to the car ahead.

Timing and speed affect the outcome. Fortunately, no harm was done. If an accident did occur, both parties would have their story, but I would think the judgement would more likely put the blame on the car that was behind or made a sudden change into the lane closest to the gas station entrance.
If I was Mr. Left Turn, in this situation, I would have chosen to avoid the quick double lane switch to get into the Gas station. Right or wrong is not worth the trouble to get it resolved and get the vehicle repaired. Remember the advice, Drive Defensively.

[CODYCAT]

The most obnoxious driver has the right of way.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Whomever has the right of way does not mitigate the requirement to use judgement and care. Also, timing could affect the result. The car turning right does not have a view of the arrow for the car turning left. Mr. Right Turn, stops, sees no impediment, and executes his start of right turn. Mr. Left Turn's light changes and he starts his turn simultaneously. Mr Left Turn now has the best visibility and should yield to the car ahead.

Timing and speed affect the outcome. Fortunately, no harm was done. If an accident did occur, both parties would have their story, but I would think the judgement would more likely put the blame on the car that was behind or made a sudden change into the lane closest to the gas station entrance.
If I was Mr. Left Turn, in this situation, I would have chosen to avoid the quick double lane switch to get into the Gas station. Right or wrong is not worth the trouble to get it resolved and get the vehicle repaired. Remember the advice, Drive Defensively.

The OP was going to the gas station. He was in the correct lane to turn into the drive where the gas station driveway was located. He had the green arrow. The other car had a red light. The OP did everything correctly. The guy at the red light was wrong. This isn't even a Florida thing. It's a thing pretty much everywhere. Green light = go. Red light = stop.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by djlnc

It's good that they specify the right turner is supposed to stay in the right lane. Now if they would only correct it so the left turner has to stay in the left lane all would be hunky dory.

Sounds reasonable, BUT, this is Florida and things in Florida are not always the way some think they should be. Goes for some of the folks here as well. Take your time. Be patient. Stay safe.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by CODYCAT

The most obnoxious driver has the right of way.

You scare me! 😮😯😲😖

[retiredguy123]

The original post is flawed. It does not clarify if the OP had a green light or a green arrow. This fact makes all the difference in who had the right-of-way.