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Old 09-13-2017, 06:10 PM
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Although I will let the experts weigh in on this one it truly amazes me how fast the developer builds huge numbers of houses. Plus, I do wonder about the ability, training, interest in doing quality work and having time to do it for what the subs and their crews are paid.
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Because it is a roof VENT. How else is the air supposed to come out and that is why they cover it with the ridge piece.
Ridge vents only run horizontal. The OP pics do not show a ridge vent.
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Have you ever listened to the contractors installing shingles in The Villages ? They cheat the interlocks on the nailers and three - four nails are hit in millisecs. Pay attention. I would like to say they have got their rhythm down to a science but your ear can be the judge. I can believe a lot of mis-hits based upon my ear. Catch 22 - the next guy is waiting in line to under bid them. Now tell me about the inspection process Vs code. Does someone count the nails per shingle and did they hit the strip. On the other hand I'm reading most of you have $500 deductible and the insurance seems to be coordinating the repairs. Serious ? You are complaining about $500 and someone taking care of the bull work after a hurricane. I'd pay the money and kiss the ground if that's all there was to it.
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Ridge vents only run horizontal. The OP pics do not show a ridge vent.
True but the OP said that the "handy man" could see down into the attic where the underlayment was cut. This could only occur on the ridge.
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Have you ever listened to the contractors installing shingles in The Villages ? They cheat the interlocks on the nailers and three - four nails are hit in millisecs. Pay attention. I would like to say they have got their rhythm down to a science but your ear can be the judge. I can believe a lot of mis-hits based upon my ear. Catch 22 - the next guy is waiting in line to under bid them. Now tell me about the inspection process Vs code. Does someone count the nails per shingle and did they hit the strip. On the other hand I'm reading most of you have $500 deductible and the insurance seems to be coordinating the repairs. Serious ? You are complaining about $500 and someone taking care of the bull work after a hurricane. I'd pay the money and kiss the ground if that's all there was to it.
Sometimes there is more involved than money,
and if a lot of folks have problems with their roof installation,
it might lead to better installation and QC.
Consequences motivate change,
and bad PR about developer build quality is a consequence.
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True but the OP said that the "handy man" could see down into the attic where the underlayment was cut. This could only occur on the ridge.
I took that to mean that the roof sheathing was open to the attic in several areas.
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Fully agree!
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:35 PM
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Although I will let the experts weigh in on this one it truly amazes me how fast the developer builds huge numbers of houses. Plus, I do wonder about the ability, training, interest in doing quality work and having time to do it for what the subs and their crews are paid.
Yep, I've thought the same thing many times.
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Sometimes there is more involved than money,
and if a lot of folks have problems with their roof installation,
it might lead to better installation and QC.
Consequences motivate change,
and bad PR about developer build quality is a consequence.
You have a good point - but what amazes me many of these same people would have sold their next born based on the quality of the house they purchased and the wisdom they so diligently put into that purchase. By the way Stonecrest and Dell Web are still standing as I understand.
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I took that to mean that the roof sheathing was open to the attic in several areas.
Or do you know how? My roof was not installed correctly. I know the roofing business, insulation business, sheathing business like the back of my hand. I spent 40 years dealing with contractors. The worst are roofing contractors then insulation contractors. You guys crack me up.....believe what you want...I know!
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Or do you know how? My roof was not installed correctly. I know the roofing business, insulation business, sheathing business like the back of my hand. I spent 40 years dealing with contractors. The worst are roofing contractors then insulation contractors. You guys crack me up.....believe what you want...I know!
I am sorry for your misfortune. Fortunately not many were incorrectly installed.
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Some posters claim to have built numerous homes over their lifetimes. I wonder if any of the houses they had previously built were built faster than the home or homes they had built in The Villages?
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Or do you know how? My roof was not installed correctly. I know the roofing business, insulation business, sheathing business like the back of my hand. I spent 40 years dealing with contractors. The worst are roofing contractors then insulation contractors. You guys crack me up.....believe what you want...I know!
I'm not arguing with you. Perhaps you misread what I wrote.
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Some posters claim to have built numerous homes over their lifetimes. I wonder if any of the houses they had previously built were built faster than the home or homes they had built in The Villages?
Premier homes have different builders than designers, ranches, etc.
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