[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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The people who come here to work are not forced by poverty to come here and work. They have choices. They can work in Orlando or Leesburg or Ocala or Wildwood or Bellview or Deland or in Alaska.

Some reactions to the presence of the charter schools are very emotional. I think it has to be because public money is used to partially fund them.

I guess then that is when it becomes political. Or because some folks don't like the financial success of the developer. I am not sure why, since none of us have children in the schools, none of us who live in The Villages, anyway.

I SENSE that there must be some discrimination for and privileges given to children whose parents have more important jobs in the Villages systems but us ordinary folks back when, we had some of that happen in public or parochial school if someone's dad was the Mayor or a doctor or lawyer or whose uncle was the bishop or who owned a big company locally.

Human nature. Not always pretty and not always fair either. Sometime, somewhere it must be explained to the children who are in our charge that they must live in a world where rank has it's privileges.

Gracie, that has been basically my point all along. See, I knew we would agree on something!

[paulandjean]

Originally Posted by pooh

Isn't it like that for most charter schools? My grandkids attend a charter school....with boundary limits. They have recently moved and had to make sure they stayed within the school's geographical boundaries for school enrollment.

The answer is No. If you have someone working for the villages ,you could live in Georgia and still attend. But if you live one quarter mile away you would not be allowed. Saddest thing,Daddy you lost your job and they will not let me back into school. Could I just finish the year? No o

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

The answer is No. If you have someone working for the villages ,you could live in Georgia and still attend. But if you live one quarter mile away you would not be allowed. Saddest thing,Daddy you lost your job and they will not let me back into school. Could I just finish the year? No o

When we were raising our children If daddy and mom couldn't pay the bills then our kids couldn't eat. We are responsible for our children. If an unexpected bad thing happens then we do the best for them we can and in so doing teach them that we will and can continue through disappointment and illness and bad times. We try not to spend all of the money we make so that we have some shield against bad things happening. We all must face life's realities sometime, somewhere and no one, NOT one of us hasn't had a set back or a bad thing happen. And have to make sacrifices to get through and change our original game plan.

No one ever wants to disappoint their children or have them suffer for anything, but they all will.

I understand what you are saying, but do you understand what I am saying? Life isn't fair or good always. It is our job to take care of our own and to teach them to get through it.

Or at least that is the way I was taught.

[pooh]

It is sad indeed , BUT this is a special charter school and them's the rules. I'm not sure what you don't understand. There are only a few of this particular type of charter schools in the state of Florida.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

The answer is No. If you have someone working for the villages ,you could live in Georgia and still attend. But if you live one quarter mile away you would not be allowed. Saddest thing,Daddy you lost your job and they will not let me back into school. Could I just finish the year? No o

So what? My dad changed jobs in the midde of a school year more than once. I had to change schools mid-year. Somehow I survived. Somehow I got educated. It's not the end of the world, even if the kid thinks it is.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by pooh

It is sad indeed , BUT this is a special charter school and them's the rules. I'm not sure what you don't understand. There are only a few of this particular type of charter schools in the state of Florida.

As I recall, when this school was first proposed over 10 years ago, there was only one other work related charter school in the country, and that school was in CA. Perhaps it's time for the Florida Legislature to take another look at these "special charter schools".

[pooh]

Originally Posted by janmcn

as i recall, when this school was first proposed over 10 years ago, there was only one other work related charter school in the country, and that school was in ca. Perhaps it's time for the florida legislature to take another look at these "special charter schools".

why???

[paulandjean]

Originally Posted by mikeod

So what? My dad changed jobs in the midde of a school year more than once. I had to change schools mid-year. Somehow I survived. Somehow I got educated. It's not the end of the world, even if the kid thinks it is.

Good for you, but did they kick you out because your dad got fired.Big difference. Maybe at the country club, its no big deal switching schools but to some it is. Remember kids"the only reason you are here, is because of your mom and dads job.I taught in the real world. But to some current posters, the villages is so good, and everything is just right that whatever the owner wants to do is God for them.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Good for you, but did they kick you out because your dad got fired.Big difference. Maybe at the country club, its no big deal switching schools but to some it is. Remember kids"the only reason you are here, is because of your mom and dads job.I taught in the real world. But to some current posters, the villages is so good, and everything is just right that whatever the owner wants to do is God for them.

BoyHowdy.

[paulandjean]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

BoyHowdy.

You got that right.

[ilovetv]

If it weren't so sad it would be laughable.

Every month there are extensive threads here, full of complaints about the hospital and lack of "good" doctors "who speak English", "went to a top medical school"...blah, blah, blah. People rave about how the only hospital they think is worth going to is MassGeneral, or some other huge teaching and research center.

People (rightly) complain about how TVRH has horribly long wait times in the ER during peak season. Obviously, top hospital administrators, nurses, technicians, engineers, etc. are needed here, and there have to be benefits offered to them to want to move here to work. Why would a sought-after young doctor or nurse or dentist with children want to move to a retirement community??

So when TV developers start a school system to attract young, fresh, brilliant and caring doctors, nurses, dentists, engineers, carpenters, landscape architects, golf-course builders and greens superintendents etc. to move here without reluctance to have to send their children to mediocre or weak or dangerous public schools, people use the charter schools as one more way to condemn the developer for being "rich" and "greedy" (never mind the fact that we all chose to spend our money here without a gun to our heads).

The sad part is that those who claim to care so much about the kids, really want them to have to stay in schools that are dangerous, mediocre or weak in instruction, and poorly managed....so that the unions can keep their hold on them, instead of the parents who only get one chance to raise and educate their kids the best way they can find.

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

If it weren't so sad it would be laughable.

Every month there are extensive threads here, full of complaints about the hospital and lack of "good" doctors "who speak English", "went to a top medical school"...blah, blah, blah. People rave about how the only hospital they think is worth going to is MassGeneral, or some other huge teaching and research center.

People (rightly) complain about how TVRH has horribly long wait times in the ER during peak season. Obviously, top hospital administrators, nurses, technicians, engineers, etc. are needed here, and there have to be benefits offered to them to want to move here to work. Why would a sought-after young doctor or nurse or dentist with children want to move to a retirement community??

So when TV developers start a school system to attract young, fresh, brilliant and caring doctors, nurses, dentists, engineers, carpenters, landscape architects, golf-course builders and greens superintendents etc. to move here without reluctance to have to send their children to mediocre or weak or dangerous public schools, people use the charter schools as one more way to condemn the developer for being "rich" and "greedy" (never mind the fact that we all chose to spend our money here without a gun to our heads).

The sad part is that those who claim to care so much about the kids, really want them to have to stay in schools that are dangerous, mediocre or weak in instruction, and poorly managed....so that the unions can keep their hold on them, instead of the parents who only get one chance to raise and educate their kids the best way they can find.

As an educator in this area I find your comments highly offensive. Pretty sure you have never set foot in my school nor have you ever met or spent any time with my teachers. You have no clue about my school, my district or my students.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

If it weren't so sad it would be laughable.



....mediocre or weak or dangerous public schools,
The sad part is that those who claim to care so much about the kids, really want them to have to stay in schools that are dangerous, mediocre or weak in instruction, and poorly managed....so that the unions can keep their hold on them, instead of the parents who only get one chance to raise and educate their kids the best way they can find.

This post would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

[simpkinp]

I agree with Gracie's thoughtful response. Everyone learns to accept disappointment sooner or later. The world is not perfect. Even here in Paradise!

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Good for you, but did they kick you out because your dad got fired.Big difference. Maybe at the country club, its no big deal switching schools but to some it is. Remember kids"the only reason you are here, is because of your mom and dads job.I taught in the real world. But to some current posters, the villages is so good, and everything is just right that whatever the owner wants to do is God for them.

What the heck does the country club have to do with this? My parents didn't belong to a country club. You seem to make the assumption that people who support the Charter School somehow are elitists. Where does the developer enter into the discussion? Does he run the school? Does he get to approve the enrollment/disenrollment of students? Or did he just work to establish a Charter School in the Workplace to attract and retain talented people for his workforce and for those who establish businesses within TV.

Whether the student has to leave the school because they no longer meet the enrollment criteria or because their parents move, the kid has to make the same adjustments. They have to assimilate into the new school environment, make new friends, join new clubs or teams. Is it easy? Nope. Does it destroy their future? Nope. It's part of life. Nothing is guaranteed. I am not unsympathetic to the student who had to transfer, but you make it sound like he/she is doomed to wear a scarlet "L" for the rest of their life.

The school has to abide by the rules established when it was set up with the Florida Department of Education.