[pooh]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Good for you, but did they kick you out because your dad got fired.Big difference. Maybe at the country club, its no big deal switching schools but to some it is. Remember kids"the only reason you are here, is because of your mom and dads job.I taught in the real world. But to some current posters, the villages is so good, and everything is just right that whatever the owner wants to do is God for them.

Charter schools are not unique to Florida and not unique toTheVillages. What dog do you have in this race, P&J? I'm sure there are rules and regulations for these types of schools in each state. Seems you are not a fan of Charter Schools...or is it just the one here inTV?

Florida School Choice | Charter School FAQs

FloridaChild | Workplace Schools

[crummybuttons]

When the Charter Schools were built everyone knew from the get go that not just anybody could attend this school. One or both parents had to work in the Villages. Not just for the Villages. It could be your barber or hairdresser in Spanish Springs. Have you ever noticed how many young people with families want to work in the Villages. It's the schools. They are the best in FL.

So, with that said, when the parent gets fired or laid off.....sorry charlie, you're outta here! Rules are rules! Also, have you ever been up the the squares for events and the kids from the schools might have a booth? They are a breath of fresh air. Polite and courteous. Kuddo's to the Charter Schools.

[Applepie]

I don't understand what paulandjean mean by referring to the charter school as the "country club" My neighbors grandchildren attend TVCS and their mother works at the MacDonalds on 466. Also my hairdresser's daughter goes to the school.
I have talked to waitesses at LSL whose childen attend the school. Certainly not every student comes from a rich background. Maybe they are referring to the buildings and outdoor faciities. Which are excellent. Please explain.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Applepie

I don't understand what paulandjean mean by referring to the charter school as the "country club" My neighbors grandchildren attend TVCS and their mother works at the MacDonalds on 466. Also my hairdresser's daughter goes to the school.
I have talked to waitesses at LSL whose childen attend the school. Certainly not every student comes from a rich background. Maybe they are referring to the buildings and outdoor faciities. Which are excellent. Please explain.

Apparently about 25% of the students are on the free and reduced price lunch subsidy program which is need based as I understand it.

[crummybuttons]

Originally Posted by mikeod

what the heck does the country club have to do with this? My parents didn't belong to a country club. You seem to make the assumption that people who support the charter school somehow are elitists. Where does the developer enter into the discussion? Does he run the school? Does he get to approve the enrollment/disenrollment of students? Or did he just work to establish a charter school in the workplace to attract and retain talented people for his workforce and for those who establish businesses within tv.

Whether the student has to leave the school because they no longer meet the enrollment criteria or because their parents move, the kid has to make the same adjustments. They have to assimilate into the new school environment, make new friends, join new clubs or teams. Is it easy? Nope. Does it destroy their future? Nope. It's part of life. Nothing is guaranteed. I am not unsympathetic to the student who had to transfer, but you make it sound like he/she is doomed to wear a scarlet "l" for the rest of their life.

The school has to abide by the rules established when it was set up with the florida department of education.

this was the most intelligent response of the night. Bravo to you, i couldn't agree more. You are my hero!

[DougB]

Originally Posted by crummybuttons

When the Charter Schools were built everyone knew from the get go that not just anybody could attend this school. One or both parents had to work in the Villages. Not just for the Villages. It could be your barber or hairdresser in Spanish Springs. Have you ever noticed how many young people with families want to work in the Villages. It's the schools. They are the best in FL.

So, with that said, when the parent gets fired or laid off.....sorry charlie, you're outta here! Rules are rules! Also, have you ever been up the the squares for events and the kids from the schools might have a booth? They are a breath of fresh air. Polite and courteous. Kuddo's to the Charter Schools.

It is a very good school and has much to be proud of but the schools are not the best in Florida. Brevard County had three combination middle/high schools in the top ten. All three scoring above the charter school that ranked number nine. Top school in the state is Pine View in Sarasota.

[PammyJ]

Villages Charter School (elementary grades) is ranked 164 in the State of Florida. There are over 1900 Elementary schools. Data looks good, However, these rankings do not include the fact that only the stable student scores are counted. Children have to Be enrolled at certain times of FTE or they do not count. Parents who are stable, have steady employment in any school - usually helps students succeed. I suspect there might be a policy that requires parents to put in volunteer hours at this school which is a research based approach for student success also!

[Cassie325]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

When we were raising our children If daddy and mom couldn't pay the bills then our kids couldn't eat. We are responsible for our children. If an unexpected bad thing happens then we do the best for them we can and in so doing teach them that we will and can continue through disappointment and illness and bad times. We try not to spend all of the money we make so that we have some shield against bad things happening. We all must face life's realities sometime, somewhere and no one, NOT one of us hasn't had a set back or a bad thing happen. And have to make sacrifices to get through and change our original game plan.

No one ever wants to disappoint their children or have them suffer for anything, but they all will.

I understand what you are saying, but do you understand what I am saying? Life isn't fair or good always. It is our job to take care of our own and to teach them to get through it.

Or at least that is the way I was taught.

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!

[paulandjean]

Originally Posted by pooh

Charter schools are not unique to Florida and not unique toTheVillages. What dog do you have in this race, P&J? I'm sure there are rules and regulations for these types of schools in each state. Seems you are not a fan of Charter Schools...or is it just the one here inTV?

Florida School Choice | Charter School FAQs

FloridaChild | Workplace Schools

Correct,Not a fan of charter schools. Especially the one in the villages.I understand "Private School"I attended Catholic Schools which are the best education one can receive. They are private and receive little or no state money and yet out perform these charter schools.Maybe they should just give the state average to catholic schools and you would see state scores soar.Catholic Schools building of Leaders.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Correct,Not a fan of charter schools. Especially the one in the villages.I understand "Private School"I attended Catholic Schools which are the best education one can receive. They are private and receive little or no state money and yet out perform these charter schools.Maybe they should just give the state average to catholic schools and you would see state scores soar.Catholic Schools building of Leaders.

Gee guys, You aren't scoring a big one here for us mackeral snappers.

sigh.

Our priest back in Ohio supports our fine public schools in the area and I helped teach in the after school religious education program at St.John the Evangelist in West Chester, Ohio. It had over 800 students.

Things change and Catholic schools change too.

But I don't truly understand what that has to do with your obvious dislike of the Villages Charter Schools. I am trying to understand. It has been said that there is some favortism shown in the school to some kids due to their parents postition with The Villages.

It isn't right but we had the same sort of thing when we went to school if someone's family was a doctor or held a prestigious position in the community.

It isn't fair but..........

[pooh]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Correct,Not a fan of charter schools. Especially the one in the villages.I understand "Private School"I attended Catholic Schools which are the best education one can receive. They are private and receive little or no state money and yet out perform these charter schools.Maybe they should just give the state average to catholic schools and you would see state scores soar.Catholic Schools building of Leaders.

I also went to Catholic schools, grades 1 thru 12 and loved it. At the time, our school did provide a better education than the local public school. Is that the case now? Maybe, maybe not.

As I've stated before, my grandchildren attend a charter school in Chicago. It's a fantastic school......the kids love it, my son and daughter-in-law love it. When they were seeking out their new apartment in the city, they made sure it was located within the school's boundaries.

You have stated your bias. I'm sure you realize that not all share your view.
Charter school in the workplace is a good concept and it works.

[DougB]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Correct,Not a fan of charter schools. Especially the one in the villages.I understand "Private School"I attended Catholic Schools which are the best education one can receive. They are private and receive little or no state money and yet out perform these charter schools.Maybe they should just give the state average to catholic schools and you would see state scores soar.Catholic Schools building of Leaders.

What do you base your statement on that catholic schoos provide the best education and out perform charter schools? I would like you to provide any evidence you can with that statement.

[gomoho]

I don't know that Catholic schools are measured the same way public schools are. Of course it has been a million years since I was there, so things have probably changed. Anxious awaiting paulandjean's response.

[GaryW]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I don't know that Catholic schools are measured the same way public schools are. Of course it has been a million years since I was there, so things have probably changed. Anxious awaiting paulandjean's response.

Me Also. Can not wait to here how that is...

[Quixote]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Parental employment by The Villages, contractors working for The Villages, or employees of businesses leasing Villages-owned property is indeed a requirement for enrollment in the charter schools. In addition, parents of students have to provide evidence of continued employment of at least 20 hours per week, usually a paycheck stub, every month.

Those are the rules, well understood and agreed to up front. If for whatever reason those rules aren't satisfied, the children of those parents no longer qualifying are dismissed to be enrolled in appropriate public schools.

Those are the rules which are reflected in the school's charter and are not subject to interpretation.

Not sure why some people have issues with accepting the rules when accepting the benefits. While completely unrelated, I live here with certain expectations and appreciate that I don't have to walk out my front door to discover that my neighbor decided to turn his lawn into a corn field--or to display his extensive collection of life-sized Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs statuary (south of CR-466, that is). Rules indeed are rules!