[Scott O]

Originally Posted by askcarl

The ICU at The Villages Hospital is full. Leesburg as well. Ocala? Make a Plan now.

Make a plan for what?

[Moderator]

The topic is capacity and utilization of local hospital ICU beds. Please stay on topic.

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[banjobob]

Some people prefer to enjoy life rather than cower in fear ,if you have health issues take precautions to protect yourself. Proven 95.7% infected with China virus over 70 years of age do not die,

[thevillager1988]

This is a link to the Florida hospital ICU and beds capacity. I have been watching since another poster provided it early in the pandemic. Florida overall has been and still is running approx. 20% capacity. Sumter is 10% ICU avail right now and Lake is 21%.

It's my hope this is helpful.

Workbook':' Public

[Neils]

Originally Posted by banjobob

Some people prefer to enjoy life rather than cower in fear ,if you have health issues take precautions to protect yourself. Proven 95.7% infected with China virus over 70 years of age do not die,

I have lost 3 relatives to the virus so far. The sats don't matter if your loved one falls into the 4.3%, they die.

[dboyd29]

My plan is to live life to its fullest and not live in fear. Life is short each day is precious I lost my wife to cancer and she lived a very healthy lifestyle. I refuse to live in fear however I have changed my diet and exercise routine so I’m better able to cope.
Those of you that are scared my God give you peace.

[Beyond The Wall]

Chose to die standing or live kneeling. Cases,cases,cases....don’t not equal symptoms or death. If you don’t feel safe don’t go. If you go and get a bad vibe, leave. You shouldn’t need rules to be smart. NY has more rules then catholic school. 188 deaths per 100,000. Florida 96 per 100,000. Source cdc for you doubters.
Happy WuFlu free New Year

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Well this is what happens when you have people making decisions, who reject science and even the actual evidence in front of their own faces.

Now granted, the initial closures were intended to reduce hospitalization, freeing up more beds and allowing medical professionals to catch up with the pandemic.

So I get that now that the virus has slowed some, they want to re-open. But FLORIDA never actually shut down. The state. Individual towns had various and sundry mandates, but the state didn't ever shut down. The virus was still free to spread, and simply funneled its way through the state, around the closed areas wherever people would bring it.

And since there was no mask mandate - and not only no mask mandate but Ocala's sheriff actually forbade mask wearing in his offices...

well all that happened was, the virus just slowed down a little, waiting for the opportunity to snap right back on up again. Now the state is encouraging people to gather in groups, unmasked, no social distancing - the science deniers are out en masse, getting all up close and personal, while those of us who are still "only" cautiously optimistic are told to stay home if it bothers us.

I'll continue to wear my mask in buildings that aren't my own property. And if you don't like seeing me wearing it, then stay home. I have the right to wear it, and you don't have the right to make me take it off.

I dont know anywhere you will be told to take off a mask. Nor do I see where the state is encouraging people to gather in groups, maskless with no distancing. In fact, the state says the opposite. You are confusing the fact that the state is encouraging people to patronize businesses and attempt to live as normal as possible WITH the restrictions in place.

[askcarl]

Originally Posted by thevillager1988

This is a link to the Florida hospital ICU and beds capacity. I have been watching since another poster provided it early in the pandemic. Florida overall has been and still is running approx. 20% capacity. Sumter is 10% ICU avail right now and Lake is 21%.

It's my hope this is helpful.

Workbook':' Public

Thanks for the link and staying on topic. TV hospital ICU is full as of 31December 2020.

for the rest, take the Mask Crap to another thread. That Horse left the Barn.

Many RNs have quit TV hospital. Lots of open Non-covid beds, not available due to no Staff available. work load at 8 patients a shift may not sound like a lot but, the worker Bees (CNA Certified Nurses Assistants) are gone. **** pay for a **** job. Forcing RN to
deliver meals, clean rooms etc. non-nursing. Managements answer: Bring in Travel Nurses. Guess what? Very few available. There is no backup.

Be aware of what's happening locally. Contact those in Charge and ask why TV Hospital isn't staffed while Covid19 numbers increase.

Oh, that's right. No Covid19 in TV. Party on....

[Johnsocat]

Perhaps since nothing else seems to make a difference, the "herd immunity" science along with the vaccine are the methods that will be most effective.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Well this is what happens when you have people making decisions, who reject science and even the actual evidence in front of their own faces.

Now granted, the initial closures were intended to reduce hospitalization, freeing up more beds and allowing medical professionals to catch up with the pandemic.

So I get that now that the virus has slowed some, they want to re-open. But FLORIDA never actually shut down. The state. Individual towns had various and sundry mandates, but the state didn't ever shut down. The virus was still free to spread, and simply funneled its way through the state, around the closed areas wherever people would bring it.

And since there was no mask mandate - and not only no mask mandate but Ocala's sheriff actually forbade mask wearing in his offices...

well all that happened was, the virus just slowed down a little, waiting for the opportunity to snap right back on up again. Now the state is encouraging people to gather in groups, unmasked, no social distancing - the science deniers are out en masse, getting all up close and personal, while those of us who are still "only" cautiously optimistic are told to stay home if it bothers us.

I'll continue to wear my mask in buildings that aren't my own property. And if you don't like seeing me wearing it, then stay home. I have the right to wear it, and you don't have the right to make me take it off.

There are "science deniers" on both sides of this equation. For example, in some areas restaurants have been totally shut down while a study out of New York showed that less than 2% of cases that were traced came from restaurants. Something like 8% of cases were traced to healthcare facilities and over 70% of cases were traced to private social gatherings.

[PugMom]

now you see why there are so many different opinions, & each 1 thinks theirs is the correct one. when a person with covid goes to check their mail, & is killed by passing vehicle, cause of death is covid. and the 1 person i DID think was sensible out of the whole pack, dr. birx (aka dr scarf), chose to step down from her position last week for breaking the same rules she had requested of us only days before. so a critical mind like mine, asks itself, 'hmmm, why would this world renowned expert place herself & entire family @ risk? is it not safe to be in crowds? why would she want to expose her grandkids to such a horrible disease? enquiring minds want to know'. i'm not debating the existence of the disease, just the many changing rules surrounding it

[kcrazorbackfan]

People come in to where I work and use the excuse as they forgot their mask; my reply to them is “I wear mine because you don’t”.

I care about my health, my wife’s health and my 86 y/o mother in laws health because some of you don’t give a s**t and think you are Superman or Wonderwoman.

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Well this is what happens when you have people making decisions, who reject science and even the actual evidence in front of their own faces.

Now granted, the initial closures were intended to reduce hospitalization, freeing up more beds and allowing medical professionals to catch up with the pandemic.

So I get that now that the virus has slowed some, they want to re-open. But FLORIDA never actually shut down. The state. Individual towns had various and sundry mandates, but the state didn't ever shut down. The virus was still free to spread, and simply funneled its way through the state, around the closed areas wherever people would bring it.

And since there was no mask mandate - and not only no mask mandate but Ocala's sheriff actually forbade mask wearing in his offices...

well all that happened was, the virus just slowed down a little, waiting for the opportunity to snap right back on up again. Now the state is encouraging people to gather in groups, unmasked, no social distancing - the science deniers are out en masse, getting all up close and personal, while those of us who are still "only" cautiously optimistic are told to stay home if it bothers us.

I'll continue to wear my mask in buildings that aren't my own property. And if you don't like seeing me wearing it, then stay home. I have the right to wear it, and you don't have the right to make me take it off.

I am not sure what to believe anymore. I keep hearing follow the science, follow the science. My question is, if the science is so correct then why is California, New York, and much of the northeast the worst hotbeds for this virus. These states have the toughest lock down rules, mandatory mask wearing rules, etc. yet have the highest rates of infection. If the science is so correct then this does not make sense. Also, if you “follow the science” then all schools should be open and restaurants should be open as only a very small percentage of transmission have been directly linked to these venues. In colleges the rate is much higher, not because the classrooms are not safe but rather close contact in dorms and parties inside where no one takes precautions. Also, one of the big bumps over the past month is directly related to family gatherings. Again, indoors no precautions. Statistically, they are saying the greatest percentage of transmissions are the result of close contact in enclosed spaces, thus lock downs may be the very cause of the greatest percentage of infections. If you wear a mask, which I do, but go out to restaurants were they are practicing CDC guidelines and are in open spaces the the chances of contracting the virus are relatively low. If that is the case then many businesses, their employees and those that support those businesses will survive in Florida, while those those in three areas I mentioned above will not.

[Ralewisy]

Fine, then. I’ll keep wearing my mask and stay home as much as possible. You can just keep exposing yourself and others, because no one can tell you what to do. But do the rest of us a favor - don’t go running to the hospital if/when you get sick.