[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

I agree, but I'm not paranoid, I'm just a little more aware than what I used to be. I always watch people when we're out; I never sit with my back to a door in a public place, but, these are things I've always done that since I began my career in Law Enforcement back in the '70's. Old habits are hard to break, more so now with what's going on. My S&W .380 Bodyguard is always with me.

We should be a lot more aware than usual. I do tend to be extremely aware in new environments but old haunts, not so much.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by angiefox10

What happened to the Coyote threads??? That was last weeks fear.... hmmmm Who wants to make bets on next weeks fear? The Sheriff got his name in the paper again... He ignited fear... and now every nearsighted old person with a tremor will be carrying a gun. I'll just leave that here for you to think about.

We are on the same page.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

We are on the same page.

And the same thread.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

What are the odds of actually being attacked and killed by a terrorist?

I read somewhere that you were more likely to be struck by lightning or bitten by a shark than to be attacked by a terrorist.

But, in view of the fact that I live in the lightning capitol of the U.S., and having been chased out of the Atlantic Ocean by a shark, I may be excused for being more concerned than most.

We have among our active contributors on TOTV several former law enforcement officers. There is a convention within the law enforcement fraternity that divides our population up into Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs. The Sheep are the general, unarmed population; the Wolves are the criminals (and now the terrorists) who prey upon the Sheep; the Sheepdogs are the law enforcement officers whose natural instincts are to protect the Sheep, and because of being armed are prepared to do it. (A Sheepdog who goes out into the public unarmed is transformed into a Sheep.)

The full text is at On Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs

Like kcrazorbackfan I have been content in retirement to carry a small .380 caliber pistol for personal protection. With what I regard as a heightened likelihood of an incident I have moved back to one of my .357 magnum service pistols.

In answer to the occasional question about being armed: "I don't always carry a Glock. Oh, wait.......yes I do."

[Fraugoofy]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I'm from north jersey but I taught in south jersey closer to philly. A fellow teacher Lou grew up in that area where we taught. Riverside had buses and a lot of families were recreational hunters. They had school off on the first day of hunting. Lou was born in 1946 and hunts. He said it was not unusual for 3 boys, 15 years old get on a bus with shotguns or rifles and get dropped off and walk to where you could hunt.

Isn't that hard to imagine? That's the 60's, in New Jersey.

We agreed that if we saw 3 kids get on a bus with shotguns our first thoughts wouldn't be I wonder where they're going hunting.

That hit close to home. I was teaching in rural Wisconsin in 1997 when about 10 boys were walking through the cafeteria with guns on their backs. Having just moved from the Washington DC area, I was like WHAT? Imagine my surprise when I learned they were attending school early mornings for a gun safety course, offered from 7am until 8am! By the year 2000 they stopped offering the course due to community concerns for the safety of all students..

[golfing eagles]

Judging by this thread, I think the sheriff stirred the pot a little too vigorously. Vigilance is one thing, 115 thousand 55+ Villagers with CCPs is another. Is TV a soft target--sure, but there are millions of soft targets, most of them softer than TV. I believe every mass shooting since 2007 was purposely carried out in a gun free zone with little to no security. The perpetrators specifically passed on other targets in many cases. I think (the appearance of) a gated community with community watch patrols and a percentage of residents with CCPs is a significant deterrent. I'm much more fearful of the driving ability demonstrated on our roads than a terrorist attack. Like another poster pointed out, I would also be more fearful of a tremulous super senior with cataracts drawing a weapon, especially since fear tends to cloud judgment.
Some people fear air travel, even though it is 100+ times safer than highways. Perhaps it is the "all or none" phenomena---people feel they can survive an auto crash, but air disasters tend to have 100% mortality. A terrorist attack may be viewed similarly.
I am certainly not anti 2nd amendment. If there was an attack, I'd like to be hiding behind the well trained guy with the Glock. But these terrorists seem to want to inflict maximum casualties, even if they aren't afraid of dying themselves. But they do not want to take the first bullet, it defeats their mission. I'm not sure if it even counts towards their 72 virgins if they are the only one who ends up dead. Besides which, like Dennis Miller said in a stand up routine, "One virgin, two, maybe even three, OK---but sooner or later you're going to want a pro"
As far as your personal survival goes, better to wear your seat belt and get your flu shot, it would be far more effective than fighting an AK47 and a suicide vest with a handgun.

[billethkid]

Didn't we all play a game at sometime where a few sentences were whispered to the first in a line of 10 people then they had to write it down and then whisper, not read what they heard to the next person and so on?

We always wondered how the same story could have possibly been repeated as some were so not even close.

Now try it in TV and guess what?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by angiefox10

What happened to the Coyote threads??? That was last weeks fear.... hmmmm Who wants to make bets on next weeks fear?

The Sheriff got his name in the paper again... He ignited fear... and now every nearsighted old person with a tremor will be carrying a gun.

I'll just leave that here for you to think about.

He ignited reality. Some may become fearful. Others will become more aware. I would much rather the local law enforcement talk straight than sugar coat the situation.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by outlaw

He ignited reality. Some may become fearful. Others will become more aware. I would much rather the local law enforcement talk straight than sugar coat the situation.

But don't forget---some people can't handle the truth, especially if they feel that they've been living in a bubble

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Judging by this thread, I think the sheriff stirred the pot a little too vigorously. Vigilance is one thing, 115 thousand 55+ Villagers with CCPs is another. Is TV a soft target--sure, but there are millions of soft targets, most of them softer than TV. I believe every mass shooting since 2007 was purposely carried out in a gun free zone with little to no security. The perpetrators specifically passed on other targets in many cases. I think (the appearance of) a gated community with community watch patrols and a percentage of residents with CCPs is a significant deterrent. I'm much more fearful of the driving ability demonstrated on our roads than a terrorist attack. Like another poster pointed out, I would also be more fearful of a tremulous super senior with cataracts drawing a weapon, especially since fear tends to cloud judgment.
Some people fear air travel, even though it is 100+ times safer than highways. Perhaps it is the "all or none" phenomena---people feel they can survive an auto crash, but air disasters tend to have 100% mortality. A terrorist attack may be viewed similarly.
I am certainly not anti 2nd amendment. If there was an attack, I'd like to be hiding behind the well trained guy with the Glock. But these terrorists seem to want to inflict maximum casualties, even if they aren't afraid of dying themselves. But they do not want to take the first bullet, it defeats their mission. I'm not sure if it even counts towards their 72 virgins if they are the only one who ends up dead. Besides which, like Dennis Miller said in a stand up routine, "One virgin, two, maybe even three, OK---but sooner or later you're going to want a pro"
As far as your personal survival goes, better to wear your seat belt and get your flu shot, it would be far more effective than fighting an AK47 and a suicide vest with a handgun.

Well said. "Well trained" is what stood out to me.............this is sadly missing in many who tote a weapon.
http://alerrt.org/files/research/Act...oterEvents.pdf