[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

True. With the possible exception of my posts, I saw everything from " he is dangerous", obnoxious, disorderly, screaming at people and chasing them out of the square to he is sweet, gentle, friendly, fun to watch, totally harmless. If I remember my first post here, I was,in a way, trying to find out what gives, who is right and could he be harmful with his baton waving around. In any case my "two cents worth" on this thread is actually worth less than two cents. After all, what is an opinion really worth and who says you have to know anything to have one. At least it kept me out of major trouble for a few hours.
Good luck on figuring out what to do about Twirly Guy.

Does he annoy the community?

"823.01 Nuisances; penalty.—All nuisances that tend to annoy the community, injure the health of the citizens in general, or corrupt the public morals are misdemeanors of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.083, except that a violation of s. 823.10 is a felony of the third degree.
History.—s. 47, Feb. 10, 1832; RS 2704; GS 3680; RGS 5624; CGL 7817; s. 932, ch. 71-136; s. 32, ch. 73-334; s. 66, ch. 74-383; s. 1, ch. 75-24; s. 41, ch. 75-298; s. 18, ch. 83-214; s. 3, ch. 2001-57."

From: Chapter 823 - 2018 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Jean-Baptiste Lully: the Baroque composer who died of gangrene after stabbing his... - Classic FM

Conductor Stabs Himself As Baton Breaks in Mexico - The New York Times

LOL! I I did see that... But it wasn't exactly a "conductor's baton", it was a large wooden staff, with a metal spike on the bottom, that he pounded on the ground.

He stabbed himself in the foot and died of gangrene... Right up my alley!

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

My response to OBB seems to have struck a negative cord with you. Because OBB seems to paint twirly guy as harmless if misunderstood, I wanted not sound too judgemental, but still warn of potential serious accidents.
I have seen far too many accidents caused by well meaning or thoughtless adult or children.
So, would you mind explaining your response to me. I'm not wanting to fight, I just want to understand what you were trying to tell me.
Thanks

You must be in the medical field, LEO, or firefighter, to see “far too many accidents, caused by well meaning or thoughtless adults or children”.
My average can be 1 to 5 trauma per night, sometimes resulting in death, but, after 40 plus years, one sometimes never gets used to it. You seem comfortable with so many injuries on your plate.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Odd, I saw none of that... Other than obnoxious...

But if that were a criteria for expulsion... Well... We might BOTH be in trouble!

Good grief, you've been watching me.😄😄😄😄

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Jean-Baptiste Lully: the Baroque composer who died of gangrene after stabbing his... - Classic FM

Conductor Stabs Himself As Baton Breaks in Mexico - The New York Times

Thank you. Just goes to show, things happen.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by asianthree

You must be in the medical field, LEO, or firefighter, to see “far too many accidents, caused by well meaning or thoughtless adults or children”.
My average can be 1 to 5 trauma per night, sometimes resulting in death, but, after 40 plus years, one sometimes never gets used to it. You seem comfortable with so many injuries on your plate.

In service and civilian life, work and recreation I've seen more than enough. And, if I live a little longer I expect I'll see or hear of more. But my bet is that in your 40 years you have seen far more than I. When at some gathering or event and they honor veterans they should always,IMHO, include medical professionals, police, fire and first responders. I never get used to injury or death. But I try not to let it show. But you look at the injuries on your plate. Your plate would look like a buffet compared to my dessert plate, I'm sure. Let me, veteran, thank you for your service in the medical field

[dhsmith]

Saw him in Publix shopping today and he seemed completely normal to me.

[spd2918]

4 or 5 months ago my wife and I were walking on the sidewalk in SS when this man abruptly spun and flung his arms out. My wife was looking away and would have been struck by him had I not stopped her. That would have resulted in me getting in trouble for assault. Later we heard him screaming over the band music.

Later the man was quietly talking to the police. That showed me he chooses when to flail/ scream and when not to.

I find flailing in a crowd and screaming to be disorderly conduct. I'd like to see him warned and then cited

[Davonu]

Originally Posted by spd2918

4 or 5 months ago my wife and I were walking on the sidewalk in SS when this man abruptly spun and flung his arms out. My wife was looking away and would have been struck by him had I not stopped her. That would have resulted in me getting in trouble for assault. Later we heard him screaming over the band music.

Later the man was quietly talking to the police. That showed me he chooses when to flail/ scream and when not to.

I find flailing in a crowd and screaming to be disorderly conduct. I'd like to see him warned and then cited

Totally agree. There is no doubt there is the possibility of him causing injury...over and above his yelling being very annoying.

[tophcfa]

It all comes back to Caddyshack. Just get Carl the greens keeper to slice the back of his hamstring and his dancing and flaying about days will be over : )

[Road-Runner]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I just did a Google search on "Conductor's Baton Injuries" and came up with zippo...

They were all too common back in the 1800's when live concert bands were more prevalent. John Philip Sousa killed or maimed dozens during his career with his baton. Of course, all of this was before the internet so no one hears about it now...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Road-Runner

They were all too common back in the 1800's when live concert bands were more prevalent. John Philip Sousa killed or maimed dozens during his career with his baton. Of course, all of this was before the internet so no one hears about it now...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Thank you. Just goes to show, things happen.

Well yeah. Conductors should not be walking around with spiked clubs. That's the take-away there.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by dhsmith

Saw him in Publix shopping today and he seemed completely normal to me.

I think he just goes to escape the mundane and flow into the music for a couple hours every day. I do the same thing too when I'm there, though I don't twirl or scream to the beat. But I get out there and dance by myself, not really caring what anyone thinks of it. I'm not there for them. I'm there for me.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Road-Runner

They were all too common back in the 1800's when live concert bands were more prevalent. John Philip Sousa killed or maimed dozens during his career with his baton. Of course, all of this was before the internet so no one hears about it now...

I just tried several google searches to find ANYTHING about this, even something that debunks it.

I tried
John Philip Sousa violence
John Philip Sousa maim
John Philip Sousa kill
Did John Philip Sousa assault anyone
John Philip Sousa baton

And got NOTHING.

Surely if this was a big scandal in the 1800's, it'd be somewhere on the first page of search results by now.