[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

janmcn - am not there until next weekend and will surely add to the traffic on 441/27...but i don't mind that because it is so wide, it has traffic lights, it has separate turn lanes in places, it has any store i might need, it has lots of restaurants and it does not have roundabouts! That's another reason we bought on the historic side! We have found that it is sometimes shorter to take 441/27 up to 42 and turn left to get to mulberry!!!!! Except for weekend yard sales - don't have much reason to go south of 466!

Me. Us.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by janmcn

And a lot of the complainers are the same people that just yesterday were saying that The Villages should continue expanding ad infinitum. What roads do they think the new arrivals will use, or what hospital emergency room, or what stores will these new residents shop at, or where will they golf or dine?

Ever since the Florida legislature repealed the decades old Florida Growth Management law in 2011, developers have no responsibility for new roads, or schools, or sewage treatment plants.

Wait until next year when we are giving a big Villages welcome to another four thousand residents in Fruitland Park, welcoming them to the Colony Publix, the golf courses, the restaurants, the softball fields, etc etc.

I completely agree. I still scratch my head at the "grow, baby, grow" attitude of some who somehow equate growth with positive attributes. What is it about perpetual growth that excites people? Yet, many of these same people complain about traffic and other negative aspects of congestion as if there is no correlation between growth and these things that degrade their quality of life. Color me perplexed.

[LndLocked]

I for one and completely confident that the omnipotent beings that designed, engineered and built the wonderful path / car intersection on Colony Blvd will make sure that all future growth and building is just as well thought out.

[jojo]

We were in Miami for the Orange Bowl and tried to drive over to Miami Beach. Two hours later we saw nothing of Miami Beach and finally were able to drive off the island. We happily returned to the peacefulness of driving in The Villages. It is all relative. Be safe.

[JB in TV]

Originally Posted by NJblue

I completely agree. I still scratch my head at the "grow, baby, grow" attitude of some who somehow equate growth with positive attributes. What is it about perpetual growth that excites people? Yet, many of these same people complain about traffic and other negative aspects of congestion as if there is no correlation between growth and these things that degrade their quality of life. Color me perplexed.

I look at it a different way. I found this great place to live, and want to share it with everyone esle that wants to enjoy it as well, and live here. They can't have my house, so that means more growth. I personally don't see growth as a reduction in quality of life, rather more incentive for businesses, that we all want, to locate here as well.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by JB in TV

I look at it a different way. I found this great place to live, and want to share it with everyone esle that wants to live here. They can't have my house, so that means more growth. I personally don't see growth as a reduction in quality of life, rather more incentive for businesses, that we all want, to locaet here as well.

Ditto!

[duffysmom]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Yes, but it's a glaring negative just about anywhere in FL during the season. We spent three months in Bradenton Beach and once February hit it was impossible to get anywhere around the Tampa-St. Pete and Sarasota areas in the horrendous traffic.

So true!! I've lived in Key Biscayne and Hutchinson Island and during the high season traffic and people congestion is always a problem. Everyone wants a piece of our paradise. Relax and go with the flow. We are happy to live just off 466; I take my cart to go shopping, restaurants, and doctors with very little trouble and always find a parking space. After six years living here I'm still thrilled to be a Villager. They say you can't keep what you're not willing to give away so I willingly give space to the snow birds.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Ditto!

So, if you agree with the statement that the growth does not result in a reduction of quality of life, why post things like:

It took almost an hour to get to Sam's club from Arnold Palmers.

In the 10 years we have been here I can honestly say I have never been in traffic as today. I stopped by the Verizon store....1 1/2 hour wait...no thanx.

Coming back Rolling Acres to 466 was solid from 441 to 466.

I know it is Friday but this was a record. And to make it worse the absolute totally inconsiderate, rude, cut you off, flip you off crowd was a record breaker.

It is no surprise....none at all there are so many accidents....they are all taking the right away instead of giving.

There is no way TV would come close to being FL friendliest home town.....not as long as they are behind the wheel. Gives TV a bad rap.

I see all of the above a direct reduction in quality of life and only through rose-colored glasses is it not obvious that the growth is causing this and it will continue to get worse as long as the growth continues.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Me. Us.

You betcha!!!!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by JB in TV

I look at it a different way. I found this great place to live, and want to share it with everyone esle that wants to enjoy it as well, and live here. They can't have my house, so that means more growth. I personally don't see growth as a reduction in quality of life, rather more incentive for businesses, that we all want, to locate here as well.

et moi aussi.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by NJblue

So, if you agree with the statement that the growth does not result in a reduction of quality of life, why post things like:


I see all of the above a direct reduction in quality of life and only through rose-colored glasses is it not obvious that the growth is causing this and it will continue to get worse as long as the growth continues.

I was discussing, not whining about the amount of traffic.
I did not intend, infer or imply it had anything to do with the quality of life here.

Quite the contrary. I do not see where it has anything to do with the quality of life.

The real intent of the post was at the end......Florida's friendliest home town as long as they are not behind the wheel.....

We all have a different perspective regarding what constitute what and we certainly al do not hear or see (or type) the same.....thank GOD for that!
Everything is relative...eh? Someone from NYC would think the traffic here is a cake walk.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I was discussing, not whining about the amount of traffic.
I did not intend, infer or imply it had anything to do with the quality of life here.

Quite the contrary. I do not see where it has anything to do with the quality of life.

The real intent of the post was at the end......Florida's friendliest home town as long as they are not behind the wheel.....

We all have a different perspective regarding what constitute what and we certainly al do not hear or see (or type) the same.....thank GOD for that!
Everything is relative...eh? Someone from NYC would think the traffic here is a cake walk.

I saw this as a discussion of driving practices, not quality of life. If road widening continues as construction does/has in the past as TV grows, the quality of life remains fine. The diverse quality of the motorists and their ability to understand roundabout rules remains in question.

We've been in far worse places for the winter in terms of traffic congestion and driving practices. Bradenton... Key West... Ft. Lauderdale...

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I was discussing, not whining about the amount of traffic.
I did not intend, infer or imply it had anything to do with the quality of life here.

Quite the contrary. I do not see where it has anything to do with the quality of life.

The real intent of the post was at the end......Florida's friendliest home town as long as they are not behind the wheel.....

We all have a different perspective regarding what constitute what and we certainly al do not hear or see (or type) the same.....thank GOD for that!
Everything is relative...eh? Someone from NYC would think the traffic here is a cake walk.

OK, perhaps hour long drives from Palmer to Sams, 1 1/2 hour waits in the Verizon store and bumper-to-bumper traffic on Rolling Acres don't constitute a quality of life issue to you (but I wonder why it was brought up), but to most people it does.

The reason for the unfriendliness is the traffic congestion - that is almost always the root cause. People tend to have short tempers when they encounter traffic jams and while it may not be a negative quality of life issue to you, it certainly is for them. Take away the congestion and we are once again the Friendliest Hometown. Sadly, with the never-ending building, this looks like a permanent condition - at least for 4-5 months per year.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I saw this as a discussion of driving practices, not quality of life.

Really? It was the driving practices that caused traffic to back up and force an hour long drive to Sams? Likewise it was driving practices that caused an hour and a half wait at the Verizon store? People's driving practice caused the backup on Rolling Acres?