[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

The fish symbol was used by early Christians as a signal or "password" so to speak when gathering together under threat of prosecution. One individual meeting another that said they were a believer, would make the first line of the fish and the other would finish the symbol as a form of password or proof that they belonged.
Justifying the "evolution" mutation of the Christian symbol is lame. It is a perversion of the symbol, similar to those that display the cross turned upside down. Both are just an attempt to intimidate those that non-believers fear, Christians. Real Christians do not become violent over something so childish. If those gentlemen were Christians (did they really say they were?) then would not have been so intolerant. Disagreement is just another sign of our humanity. Destruction of property or vandalism are criminal acts.

If this is a true story, I see no value in complaining about it. In stead of complaining to us, like we are to blame, the authorities (Social Services?) should have been contacted and a complaint made.
Being "old" is not a crime
Being "white" is not a crime
Being a "Christian" is not a crime.
Being destructive IS a crime.

I agree with the last 3 sentences of the 1st paragraph.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Religion threads should be not allowed along with political threads that are already prohibited They both become very annoying very fast.

Relative to the controversial, evolution vrs creation - as OLD as we in TV Land are - just wait a few years and we will all die - and MAYBE (?) we will KNOW the answer - fingers crossed lads!!!!!

[andercat]

Originally Posted by Byte1

No one that believes in the Bible as the Word of GOD believes in evolution. There is NO inference of evolution in the Bible.
Catholics believe in CREATION, not evolution. If evolution was taught in their schools, it was Darwin's theory of Evolution, as an example not as a fact.
I have studied many different Bible believing religions and they ALL believe in Creation.

Interviewing several scientists and archeologists, I have never found one that could prove Evolution. I have found several that have said that the Bible is a historically accurate document that is reinforced by scientific evidence. They also seem to agree that the ONLY evolution if any is man made. True evolution is natEvolution is not forbidden by these denominations. ural and the lack of evidence suggests that Darwin only had a theory. By the way, Darwin himself is reported to have recanted his theory in his later days.

You can find several anythings to agree with any point of view. You say that you have never found any that could prove evolution. Have anyone been able to prove the existence of God? Darwin's recantation is considered unsupportable and is considered as an attempt by some Christians as a way to debunk his theory.
My sister in law and her father are Lutheran ministers. I'm Catholic. Evolution is acceptable to these groups and many other denominations.
I'm not asking for anyone to believe in evolution. What I am saying is that you can be a Christian and also believe in evolution. To a majority of Christians they are not mutually exclusive.

[Worldseries27]

This was jesus 11th commandment to us all. Ask yourself was it followed by any of the particpants in this unfortunate matter?. Is it not more important to worry about where your soul is going than to argue about how you got here?
Father georges lemaitre, a belgian catholic priest, who fought and was wounded in ww1, is considered the father of the big bang theory. Read about him if the science of god is important to you. Love one another.

[andercat]

Originally Posted by Neils

Catholics that do not believe in the bible are not listening to their Pope either. Not sure why they call themselves Catholics.

I said that Catholics do not believe in a word for word literal interpretation of the bible. That is not the same thing as not believing in the bible.
Speaking about forgiveness
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
So 7 x 70 = 490. After that we don't need to forgive? That is what a literal interpretation would mean. I think the point is not the actual number but the need to forgive is timeless.

[jimjamuser]

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Originally Posted by kanoa1kale2

Really????
I've lived here 7 years and have yet to see a pack of rabid, angry, old white men. Do they only come out at night or on holidays? Are they invisible? Or are they a figment of your imagination???????

People have vouched for BlueAsh's integrety. And at least one other poster had the same experience. So, your cute sarcasm is misplaced!

Originally Posted by bumpygreens

The article seems to support natural selection rather than evolution. It cites sub-species (or varieties) of foxes and giraffes, but gives no evidence how an entirely new species could evolve from any of the sub-species. You could just as easily claim that the article supports creationism in its definition of a species as a group of animals that can freely interbreed among themselves. (The Bible uses the word "kind", not "species".) Genetic mutations aren't proof of evolution on their own. A genetic mutation that produces an increase in the genome would go a long way in support of evolution, but so far we have only seen mutations that result in a decrease of genetic material.

Yes bumpygreens you are absolutely correct and I think the first in this thread to say the principal mechanism is natural selection.

[donfey]

Originally Posted by blueash

Mrs Blueash came out of the Southern Trace Publix to find two older men at her golf cart. On the rear plastic curtain we have an Evolve sticker similar to the one below. These two older white men verbally attacked her claiming that this was offensive to their Christianity as it defiled a Christian symbol. She told them to leave her alone and go away. They called her an "ignorant c*nt" and eventually allowed her to leave. They had ripped the feet off the fish.

No the store does not have video. No she did not take a photo of these excellent Christians.

I apologize for the two "men." It's apparent they were poorly raised. Buffoons, I'd say.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by villageidiot1

For those of you who don't believe in God, In my opinion you are seeing the results of that every day and it's getting much worse. We have
kicked God out of Schools, Government and trying everywhere else. And as it's my opinion, I thing you're not going to believe where
we end up. But for those of us who choose to believe, we also know where were going to end up.

Can you REALLY know, as in KNOW? I do NOT think that MANY, many people are coming back from that great UNKNOWABLE beyond - to prove it. I know (before you can say it) that some old, often translated book tells you THAT when you are young and impressable - that some guy really (?) made it back? - I suppose, it is possible, but unlikely. And I KNOW that you don't KNOW. Besides, why not just wait a few years and find out. (I know) next, you tell me about the big, BAD, HELL place, that is another invention of peoples's minds. It is all a nice STORY that builds big cathedrals and drives wedges between people and has caused countless wars, death, and destruction. All for a nice imagined STORY. The glory of the story - one that can not be PROVED- Oh isn't that convenient? I have just wasted my time typing - everyone happy?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by bumpygreens

That symbol was developed by atheists as an intentional affront to christian beliefs. They could have chosen a number of other ways to get their point across, but they intentionally chose a Christian symbol. It doesn't excuse the two men in the parking lot. Spending an hour in church on Sunday doesn't make one a Christian anymore than spending an hour in a garage would make him into a car. They may call themselves Christian, but in reality they are merely practicing a form of superstition. Kind of like having that symbol on your golf cart, and a quote from The Bible in your signature line. The dichotomy is convincingly confusing.

Dichotomy is a good word to use as a general reference for this overall situation. Kudos. I might add a humorous, but also, somewhat relevant comment - notice that dichotomy ryhmes with lobotomy - which means? - whatever floats your particular watercraft

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Schaumburger

Well said. Exactly as I was taught in Catholic high school in the 1970's. The Earth being created in six 24 hour days...really? Six days is symbolic for the Earth being created over billions of years.

And I am sorry Mrs. Blueash encountered these people...Christians they are most certainly not.

Exactly! 6 days or 6 billion years - it brings together the creationists and the evolutionist. Religion can be a positive - bring people together experience OR a negative break people apart and cause a wedge that ends up in war and KILLING. You can to pick your attitude - the light OR the dark - violence OR non-violence - Ying OR Yang. It is a life choice. It follows from childhood to death.

[Chi-Town]

This symbol gets OP's point across and the two idiots would never figure it out.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

This symbol gets OP's point across and the two idiots would never figure it out.

I liked your first picture better.. lol

[oldtimes]

So sorry that this happened to Mrs Blueash. It was very unchristian and they should be very ashamed.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

Hey Red White and Blue.. I come from the human race, planet earth. This is not a made up story. Tell me how you made that assertion? What is your evidence. EVIDENCE. Don't like me, that's fine. Yes I have a bias toward decency and honesty and equality and justice. Toward science and education, toward tolerance toward inclusion.

I posted exactly how Mrs Blueash reported the incident. The only detail omitted was that they were both about 5' 6" and they specifically told her that they saw the evolve sticker as an attack on their religion. I wanted to call the police she declined and just wants it to stop. She is sick and tired of the vitriol coming from the right at her in this instance, and at several of her friends recently. Why don't you believe this "story"? Was it you standing at her golf cart? Was it your friends or people who think the way you do? This is a 100% accurate description of what happened. Deal with it.

Right away, I felt that your account of the incident was factually correct. I particularly agree with your bias toward SCIENCE! Again Kudos.