[Debfrommaine]

Have had both and prefer one level, very easy to entertain and maintain.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

You make an excellent point about which type of table I prefer to be seated at in a restaurant. Most certainly, I do not want to sit at a high top and much prefer the standard table. Having said that, when I sit at the bar in my kitchen, that is a special time for enjoying a cocktail and appys with friends for just my husband. As for eating a meal in our home, we always dine at the breakfast room table or the dining room table if we have a group of guests for a meal.

I have just one question regarding your comment that the one level counter has "more living space" than the two tier counter. Are you referring to the FLOOR space or the space on the counter top for preparation and for serving buffet style? Doesn't that depend on how deep you make the one level counter top? The world is you oyster with that and the floor space one has is what determines how deep you make the one level counter top..

I have 47” from my counter with cabinets and stove to my Island. My island is 58”x9’8”. Now measure from your back counter front to furthest front of counter of your pony, lots of space, but what can you use it for.

Now measure 45” from your back counter, add in depth of Island counter, that you would like. ( some models you would have have less Island, than we have.

You should gain 4 plus feet into your living area. When we reno our pony in our Lilly, we will gain 5.5 feet in the living room. The Island our chairs are under the counter, and still have 60” to my sofa table in the living area. I could push closer to kitchen if I want oversized couches.

I was shocked when I looked at the plans to remove the pony replace with an island, and how much sf there was in the kitchen between the pony, that really is wasted unused space, in my opinion

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

This is hilarious. First we have the “My northern village is better than your southern village” thread. Now we have the my kitchen is better than your kitchen, thread. What’s next, my water heater is better than your water heater?

Yes, but do you have "silent close toilet seats"? If not, you have some work to do...

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

This is hilarious. First we have the “My northern village is better than your southern village” thread. Now we have the my kitchen is better than your kitchen, thread. What’s next, my water heater is better than your water heater?

Did you not read this thread? OP is asking for opinions on Island counter, and pony counter. Nothing about who’s is better.. jump in when you read all the posts, then one can offer thoughts, or do you just need to up post numbers.

But if your answer is holding a Sheldon sign then I apologize

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

This is hilarious. First we have the “My northern village is better than your southern village” thread. Now we have the my kitchen is better than your kitchen, thread. What’s next, my water heater is better than your water heater?

Why does it always come to "this is another north vrs south post"? I started this thread because I am a retired contractor and am always interested in what people like and do not like in their homes. I had no intention of bashing anyone.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Why does it always come to "this is another north vrs south post"? I started this thread because I am a retired contractor and am always interested in what people like and do not like in their homes. I had no intention of bashing anyone.

Because sometimes people just like to up post numbers and never read the thread

[2newyorkers]

I had the pony counter(never knew it was called that) and I replaced it with a flat countertop. I love it flat. Easier to bake and lay cookie trays.

[upstate]

We replaced the one level counter with a pony top when we bought our CYV ten years ago with no regrets. It does hide some of the mess and whenever we have people over, they gravitate to either the stools or leaning on the counter.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines

Lack of cabinets? LOL. Your comment makes me think you've never actually seen those counters as they have way more cabinet space that the older two-tier cabinets.

Putting aside our personal likes, the fact is that the two tier counters are dated. For your personal use it doesn't matter, but when it comes to resale the two tier cabinets scream "dated kitchen". Why You Should Avoid Double-Tiered Kitchen Countertops

I was referring to the lack of cabinets on the wall behind the counter. You must admit, in some of the newer models, it is extremely lacking.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I was referring to the lack of cabinets on the wall behind the counter. You must admit, in some of the newer models, it is extremely lacking.

I have full wall of cabinets 11 upper cabinets, 3 doublejunk drawers, 6 double pan drawers 2 double lower cabinets, a corner 2 shelf turntable, and double shelf top of pantry, lower pantry has 5 double pullout drawers.

Island has 8 double cabinets, 3 drawers, and the stupid pull out trash drawer, with regular drawer on top. 2 tall sheet pan cabinets

Plus I have 10’ ceiling and uppers are 48”

Not sure what else I need

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I have full wall of cabinets 11 upper cabinets, 3 doublejunk drawers, 6 double pan drawers 2 double lower cabinets, a corner 2 shelf turntable, and double shelf top of pantry, lower pantry has 5 double pullout drawers.

Island has 8 double cabinets, 3 drawers, and the stupid pull out trash drawer, with regular drawer on top. 2 tall sheet pan cabinets

Plus I have 10’ ceiling and uppers are 48”

Not sure what else I need

Sounds like you have a beautiful and large designer home. I live in CYV. In the newer CYV, they reduced the amount of cabinets on the walls. But, they have a walk-in pantry a bit away from the kitchen. I prefer plenty of cabinets on the wall. I do not like to walk around here, there, everywhere when I am cooking or entertaining.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Sounds like you have a beautiful and large designer home. I live in CYV. In the newer CYV, they reduced the amount of cabinets on the walls. But, they have a walk-in pantry a bit away from the kitchen. I prefer plenty of cabinets on the wall. I do not like to walk around here, there, everywhere when I am cooking or entertaining.

Would kill for a walk-in pantry, I wanted to add that room on when we built, but that was a NO change to side walls.

How many cabinets less are there, and are they deeper and wider, add up your square feet on your current cabinets, then go to the model you like and get that square feet. You might be surprised on how close or larger the cabinets are.

Our patio villa, had more cabinet square feet, that our designer, that had more cabinets. The designer cabinets while more, were not as deep.

With the addition of walk-in, you keep everything you need in the cabinets, stock from pantry when needed. No need to go to the pantry while cooking.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Would kill for a walk-in pantry, I wanted to add that room on when we built, but that was a NO change to side walls.

How many cabinets less are there, and are they deeper and wider, add up your square feet on your current cabinets, then go to the model you like and get that square feet. You might be surprised on how close or larger the cabinets are.

Our patio villa, had more cabinet square feet, that our designer, that had more cabinets. The designer cabinets while more, were not as deep.

With the addition of walk-in, you keep everything you need in the cabinets, stock from pantry when needed. No need to go to the pantry while cooking.

In my friends new CYV she has one floor cabinet, stove, 2nd floor cabinet and refrigerator on the wall. Nothing else.

Only two upper cabinets on wall each between the stove. Pantry is on the other side of the room closer to the living area. And, of course, the center island.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

In my friends new CYV she has one floor cabinet, stove, 2nd floor cabinet and refrigerator on the wall. Nothing else.

Only two upper cabinets on wall each between the stove. Pantry is on the other side of the room closer to the living area. And, of course, the center island.

No cabinets in the island? Again compare sf not amount of cabinets. Single wall cabinets are much deeper than those who have wrap around cabinets

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by asianthree

No cabinets in the island? Again compare sf not amount of cabinets. Single wall cabinets are much deeper than those who have wrap around cabinets

The 2 cabinets on the wall are standard size - not a deeper version. Yes, there are cabinets in the island but with only two wall cabinets, one for glasses, the other for dishes. Her center island is full. I do not know the actual count of cabinets in the island but there are not many. Perhaps three or four.