[Laurawilcox]

We are celebrating our one year anniversary at our semi custom design her home. We designed the entire thing around the two-tier kitchen counter and love it. It is perfect for entertaining and perfect to hide the dishes in the sink when I have guests over even myself.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Give you an easy way to understand. Painters Tape. 3-4 inch strip of tape at the corners of the dimensions that I listed.

This will work for trying to figure out a car will fit in the garage, a couch, if you’re unsure if it’s too big, or in this case if an island would give you more living space in your kitchen than a pony.

So for furniture, I actually will fold a sheet to the dimensions of the piece of furniture, then I can move it around the room, or anywhere. Save lot of grief “will that dining table take up two much room. Sheet or tape is your best tool

Thanks.

[margaretmattson]

[QUOTE=asianthree;2250206]
I was shocked when I looked at the plans to replace my island, and how much sf there was in the kitchen between the pony, that really is wasted unused space, in my opinion[/QUOTE)



I would be willing to pay extra for more space to move around. I have lived in three different styles in the Villages and in each the living area was tight. I wish the developer would make the lots a little bigger to accommodate this. If I spend too much time in the living area, I find myself heading out to the lanai just for some breathing room. When it rains, I spend more time in the garage. When I visit friends, each of their homes have the same problem. Seems like we are on top of one another. Some people have to solve this by glass enclosing their lanai for more room. Can you tell I am not a fan of the homes in the Villages? Sorry, to complain. To me, each house has poor design. But on the up side, it does make me venture out more!

[coffeebean]

[QUOTE=margaretmattson;2250731]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I was shocked when I looked at the plans to replace my island, and how much sf there was in the kitchen between the pony, that really is wasted unused space, in my opinion[/QUOTE)



I would be willing to pay extra for more space to move around. I have lived in three different styles in the Villages and in each the living area was tight. I wish the developer would make the lots a little bigger to accommodate this. If I spend too much time in the living area, I find myself heading out to the lanai just for some breathing room. When it rains, I spend more time in the garage. When I visit friends, each of their homes have the same problem. Seems like we are on top of one another. Some people have to solve this by glass enclosing their lanai for more room. Can you tell I am not a fan of the homes in the Villages? Sorry, to complain. To me, each house has poor design. But on the up side, it does make me venture out more!

Premier homes have that interior space you crave. You just have to pay more for your home.

[asianthree]

[QUOTE=coffeebean;2250734]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Premier homes have that interior space you crave. You just have to pay more for your home.

Our new home is as close to a premier, as you can build, today. We have all 10’ ceilings, and 8’ interior and exterior doors, as well as the lanai. We are close to 3000sf 4/3, 800sf garage, 600sf lanai. Homes built with this model are in the $650,000-900,000 then add the cost of lot premium

At this time you can’t build a premier until unit # 84 which is in left field.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Just wondering..........where did this term "pony" come from. Never knew I had a pony in my home.

I have been wondering the same thing. I found out........

According to bobvila.com -- "Also known as a half wall or a knee wall, the pony wall label emerged more than 150 years ago in Nebraska when a farmer by the name of Walter Clydell decided to build short walls in his horse stable to make it easier to see into the stalls."

(I knew Bob Vila would know. )

FWIW, our last 3 houses have had the ponies. I like them for all the reasons mentioned by others here. But the one level counters do look beautiful when I see them on HGTV. But nobody ever piles stuff up on those HGTV counters.

Boomer

[asianthree]

[QUOTE=coffeebean;2250734]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Premier homes have that interior space you crave. You just have to pay more for your home.

We are remodeling one of our investment homes in TV, and taking out the pony, and putting in an island.

Our new build is as close to a premier as one can get.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Boomer

I have been wondering the same thing. I found out........

According to bobvila.com -- "Also known as a half wall or a knee wall, the pony wall label emerged more than 150 years ago in Nebraska when a farmer by the name of Walter Clydell decided to build short walls in his horse stable to make it easier to see into the stalls."

(I knew Bob Vila would know. )

FWIW, our last 3 houses have had the ponies. I like them for all the reasons mentioned by others here. But the one level counters do look beautiful when I see them on HGTV. But nobody ever piles stuff up on those HGTV counters.

Boomer

Thanks for the history of the pony term. Figures it had to have something to do with horses.

[coffeebean]

[QUOTE=asianthree;2250898]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

We are remodeling one of our investment homes in TV, and taking out the pony, and putting in an island.

Our new build is as close to a premier as one can get.

I'm a bit confused by the terms you use. I have cabinets and a two tier counter top in my kitchen that is not connected to any wall. I can walk all around these cabinets with the pony wall and two tier counter tops. One side of this structure has area for bar stools and the other side are the cabinets. I call this an island. Isn't that what it is?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm a bit confused by the terms you use. I have cabinets and a two tier counter top in my kitchen that is not connected to any wall. I can walk all around these cabinets with the pony wall and two tier counter tops. One side of this structure has area for bar stools and the other side are the cabinets. I call this an island. Isn't that what it is?

I'm quoting myself here because I just realized now that my quote got messed up in my previous post. Sorry if that is confusing but.................

In that post I was asking Asianthree about the use of the term "island" in the kitchen. I'm hoping Asianthree will answer my question in the above quote box. Thanks.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm quoting myself here because I just realized now that my quote got messed up in my previous post. Sorry if that is confusing but.................

In that post I was asking Asianthree about the use of the term "island" in the kitchen. I'm hoping Asianthree will answer my question in the above quote box. Thanks.

Technically in kitchen remodel, a counter that can or cannot be attached but has a two tear countertop is called a pony. At least that’s what all the quotes used for terminology.

Island on all quotes is a one solid surface it can be table high (think wheelchair)
Or chair high (chairs are 25-27”, which is what our island is at new build. I find older people like the pony, because it can hide junk, and if they entertain gives them a bar effect.

As younger people move to TV, the trend is one surface Island, we can roll out dough at perfect height, have a huge surface for entertaining, buffet, bar at one end food in the middle, plates other end. I can have 30 people over at the pony every one crowds at the high end. At the island it’s spread out all so more space

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm quoting myself here because I just realized now that my quote got messed up in my previous post. Sorry if that is confusing but.................

In that post I was asking Asianthree about the use of the term "island" in the kitchen. I'm hoping Asianthree will answer my question in the above quote box. Thanks.

I am a retired contractor. In geography, an island is land completely surrounded by water. A kitchen island stands alone like land islands. You can walk completely around it A kitchen island can be any shape and can have a pony wall attached.

A pony wall is a half wall. Its origin dates back to when farmers would build half-wall stables to keep ponies. The ponies could not escape and the farmer could easily utilize it. The pony wall made it easier to tend and feed the pony. The name stuck. A half wall in construction is called a pony wall.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I am a retired contractor. In geography, an island is land completely surrounded by water. A kitchen island stands alone like land islands. You can walk completely around it A kitchen island can be any shape and can have a pony wall attached.

A pony wall is a half wall. Its origin dates back to when farmers would build half-wall stables to keep ponies. The ponies could not escape and the farmer could easily utilize it. The pony wall made it easier to tend and feed the pony. The name stuck. A half wall in construction is called a pony wall.

Yep been pointed out in previous post explaining pony wall. At our small family thoroughbred farm, the 135 stalls are standard height.

Eight stalls have 5’ walls, that are used for birthing, so one can watch to make sure foal or mother isn’t in any distress.

However racing thoroughbreds are call “Ponies”. Fun fact splitting the rail on racing day, is still taboo

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Technically in kitchen remodel, a counter that can or cannot be attached but has a two tear countertop is called a pony. At least that’s what all the quotes used for terminology.

Island on all quotes is a one solid surface it can be table high (think wheelchair)
Or chair high (chairs are 25-27”, which is what our island is at new build. I find older people like the pony, because it can hide junk, and if they entertain gives them a bar effect.

As younger people move to TV, the trend is one surface Island, we can roll out dough at perfect height, have a huge surface for entertaining, buffet, bar at one end food in the middle, plates other end. I can have 30 people over at the pony every one crowds at the high end. At the island it’s spread out all so more space

Thanks for the clarification.

[thelegges]

[QUOTE=coffeebean;2251013]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I'm a bit confused by the terms you use. I have cabinets and a two tier counter top in my kitchen that is not connected to any wall. I can walk all around these cabinets with the pony wall and two tier counter tops. One side of this structure has area for bar stools and the other side are the cabinets. I call this an island. Isn't that what it is?

So far the pony counters only have cabinet on one side due to seating area. We
are remodeling our MI home removed pony with one level slab we gained 3 feet in the dining area and 5 extra cabinets