[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by buggyone

When bullets go up in the air, they come down with enough force to kill someone. I wonder how that will go in the debate procedure.

Not a problem according to the folks from Fairfax, VA.

[billethkid]

There is too much hypothesizing and opining about what individuals THINK on the issue.

The subject at hand is self protection IN ONE'S HOME!
First of all know that someone who breaks into your home knowing someone is there is a person to be feared!

All opinions aside until YOU are confronted in such a situation there is no debate.

All the anecdotes are out the window when YOU are the home owner IN the home being violated.
Too many untrained think they need a pistol for home protection. The defense weapon of choice is a shotgun.....like the concept or not. When the perp is breaking into or already in the house.....what a perp will fear and usually flee from is a shotgun.

I can give you first hand experience of such a break in.

Please don't drag the real subject at hand by talking about a friend or family member entering the home!! At 1:30 am, cutting the screen on the window and crow barring the window. What works is announcing one more step and you will shoot them followed by the actuating or sliding the slide on the gun....99% will flee???if they continue then one does what they must do to protect the selves.
If one has the time and the presence of mind you do not have to shoot to kill.

All very east to"debate" until or unless it happens to you.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by billethkid

There is too much hypothesizing and opining about what individuals THINK on the issue.

The subject at hand is self protection IN ONE'S HOME!
First of all know that someone who breaks into your home knowing someone is there is a person to be feared!

All opinions aside until YOU are confronted in such a situation there is no debate.

All the anecdotes are out the window when YOU are the home owner IN the home being violated.
Too many untrained think they need a pistol for home protection. The defense weapon of choice is a shotgun.....like the concept or not. When the perp is breaking into or already in the house.....what a perp will fear and usually flee from is a shotgun.

I can give you first hand experience of such a break in.

Please don't drag the real subject at hand by talking about a friend or family member entering the home!! At 1:30 am, cutting the screen on the window and crow barring the window. What works is announcing one more step and you will shoot them followed by the actuating or sliding the slide on the gun....99% will flee???if they continue then one does what they must do to protect the selves.
If one has the time and the presence of mind you do not have to shoot to kill.

All very east to"debate" until or unless it happens to you.

btk: spot on

I will say that when we had a seminar sponsored by the --------Police Dept. An officer said if you shoot a burglar before he enters the house be sure to drag through the door before we arrive.

This act of violating one's space is very serious stuff and very personal to many people

[Shimpy]

Those entering your home will go directly to the bedroom.....That is where they will find the cash and jewelry. If you must keep those items in your home then find another room to hide them. Hiding something in your underwear drawer is sure to be found and stolen.

[Tweety Bird]

Originally Posted by missypie

If they come into my home it will be their last.

You got a gun????

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

Originally Posted by billethkid

a reason they may be breaking windows is they know that an alarmed home can be entered by breaking the glass which does not trigger the sensor in the window.

That is why if you choose to put in a security system be sure to include motion sensors and a glass break sensor in your system.

They do have glass breakage sensors.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tweety Bird

You got a gun????

Girls! lol

[renielarson]

Originally Posted by billethkid

a reason they may be breaking windows is they know that an alarmed home can be entered by breaking the glass which does not trigger the sensor in the window.

That is why if you choose to put in a security system be sure to include motion sensors and a glass break sensor in your system.

Originally Posted by buggyone

I would doubt if the burglar crawls through the broken window. They probably reach in and unlock the slider or door. Definitely, do put in the glass break sensors as an extra layer. Motion detectors can be set off by moving shadows or passing lights.

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

Actually another solution is to get ADT's newer "shock sensors" ... if the glass is banged or shocked (ie does not have to be broken ...someone banging against it is good enough) the alarm will trigger.

Originally Posted by KEVIN & JOSIE

They do have glass breakage sensors.

We have all these sensors and I feel much safer with them. As for coming face to face with an intruder, Lord forbid that ever happens, we are prepared.

[youngretiree]

Are law enforcement from the different counties trying to find commonalities, such as if you were working in a Dr's office and a couple came in and were still waiting, they wouldn't be getting home anytime soon......

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Not a problem according to the folks from Fairfax, VA.

If a person discharges a firearm he "owns the bullet" regardless of where it lands. In other words, if you shoot in self defense but miss the intruder in your home and the bullet pierces your neighbor's home ... you are legally responsible.

Thus, if you own a firearm, my advice is a) get the training b) know how to use your weapon and c) don't use it unless you have no other choice. It also helps to be able to hit what you aim at.

[perrjojo]

Carry a weapon? Buy a security system? I think the best solution is to catch these perps and put them in free housing.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

Carry a weapon? Buy a security system? I think the best solution is to catch these perps and put them in free housing.

That makes sense to me.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Those entering your home will go directly to the bedroom.....That is where they will find the cash and jewelry. If you must keep those items in your home then find another room to hide them. Hiding something in your underwear drawer is sure to be found and stolen.

That's one way of dealing with it. However, the opposing view of a friend is: they intentionally leave some inexpensive jewelry and a few hundred dollars in what they hope will be the first place they look. They hope that the crook feels they have all that is to be had from the house and leave. To them, this is preferable to having the crooks ransack their house looking for their hiding place. I tend to agree.

[DougB]

Originally Posted by NJblue

That's one way of dealing with it. However, the opposing view of a friend is: they intentionally leave some inexpensive jewelry and a few hundred dollars in what they hope will be the first place they look. They hope that the crook feels they have all that is to be had from the house and leave. To them, this is preferable to having the crooks ransack their house looking for their hiding place. I tend to agree.

Why not just leave it on the porch with a sign saying "free to a good home"?

[Parker]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

Carry a weapon? Buy a security system? I think the best solution is to catch these perps and put them in free housing.

The free housing is full. You could rotate them in, but then others would have to be rotated out, which is probably what happened to these particular burglars in the first place. I vote for putting them in public stocks and let the Villagers have the last say.