[rustyp]

Well where are the experts here? What can you say and when regarding CC. Is it true if you have a CC permit and your weapon is exposed you are in a world of trouble? I understand the side of protection especially given the latest crazies. However I have never had a need for pulling out a gun yet in my lifetime - yes maybe lucky. More likely purposely avoided trouble. However I lost a close friend and a family member to suicide because a gun was handy at a vulnerable moment. And my final two words on this subject - BARNEY FIFE.

[Taltarzac725]

I have no problem with congealed gun carriers if they are well trained and level headed. Some are victims of stalkers. Others are retired law enforcement, military, etc. Have no idea though why you would bring a gun to a donut shop in the Villages unless it is carried at all times.

I have heard that some people carry guns to dog parks which also does not make much sense. Mace would be a lot more practical if it is the right kind. Women's Self Defense Products | WomenOnGuard.com

[TNLAKEPANDA]

It seems to me that anti-gun people just lack common sense. They should not be concerned about the person who has a legal concealed carry permit. Most people who go through the trouble of getting a permit do carry all the time. Yes even at the dog park! Not to shoot dogs for god's sake. You just never know when and were your life might be threatened.

It is not legal to brandish your firearm along with a threat. That will get you arrested. Experts say do not pull your gun unless you intend to use it.

[JoelJohnson]

30,000 people were killed by guns last year, 90% by themselves or by someone they knew.

Let's see 330 million people in the US and 3,000 killed by terrorist, hum, no wonder neither I, or any member of my (extended) family even came close to needing a gun.

[dewilson58]

I carry all the time..........especially on ToTV............you never know.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Because a lot of people who have CCW permits must remember they are not law enforcement officers, & if they are carrying they have to stay out of the fray,unless its a matter of life & death

Why should they have to be reminded? If that's the case, maybe they should not be carrying.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Butterfly201

He has a right to carry; he has a right to say he carries a gun. However, if someone started shooting, he could have defended himself . It is his right! I don't understand the snide remarks. And with ISIS saying we want to kill you and coming over here and carrying out their threat, why do you question his carrying a gun? ISIS or AlQueda -- They have killed more than 3000 people on 9/11, I don't know how many in Paris, what was it, 14 in CA, and the "office" killing in Ft. Hood where no soldier can carry a gun? How many did he kill? Not counting the journalists etc. Wake up!

Fear...........

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA

It seems to me that anti-gun people just lack common sense. They should not be concerned about the person who has a legal concealed carry permit. Most people who go through the trouble of getting a permit do carry all the time. Yes even at the dog park! Not to shoot dogs for god's sake. You just never know when and were your life might be threatened.

It is not legal to brandish your firearm along with a threat. That will get you arrested. Experts say do not pull your gun unless you intend to use it.

I refuse to live in the kind of fear that would make me get a gun and carry it everywhere. You risk your life more every time you get in a car or walk across the street. If the astronomical odds end up being that I walk into a situation where people are shooting everyone up and I die, it must have been my time to go.

[MelZ]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

30,000 people were killed by guns last year, 90% by themselves or by someone they knew.

Let's see 330 million people in the US and 3,000 killed by terrorist, hum, no wonder neither I, or any member of my (extended) family even came close to needing a gun.

Please quote accurate numbers, the actual number of firearm deaths last year was just over 11,000 and that included shooting while in the commission of a crime. Gun deaths rank much lower than by motor vehicle and medical malpractice.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by MelZ

Please quote accurate numbers, the actual number of firearm deaths last year was just over 11,000 and that included shooting while in the commission of a crime. Gun deaths rank much lower than by motor vehicle and medical malpractice.

Okay, let's use all the accurate numbers. From CNN:

Using numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we found that from 2001 to 2013, 406,496 people died by firearms on U.S. soil. (2013 is the most recent year CDC data for deaths by firearms is available.) This data covered all manners of death, including homicide, accident and suicide.
According to the U.S. State Department, the number of U.S. citizens killed overseas as a result of incidents of terrorism from 2001 to 2013 was 350.
In addition, we compiled all terrorism incidents inside the U.S. and found that between 2001 and 2013, there were 3,030 people killed in domestic acts of terrorism.* This brings the total to 3,380.

*Includes the following domestic terrorism incidents:
September 11 attacks (NY, DC, PA) 9/11/01
2001 Anthrax attacks (DC, NY, CT, FL) Oct., Nov. 2001
El Al counter shooting (California) 7/4/02
Beltway sniper attacks (DC, Mid-Atlantic) Oct. 2002
Knoxville church shooting (Tennessee) 7/27/08
Pittsburgh police officers killed (Pennsylvania) 4/4/09
Tiller abortion clinic (Kansas) 5/31/09
Holocaust Museum shooting (DC) 6/10/09
Fort Hood shooting (Texas) 11/5/09
Plane crash into Austin IRS building (Texas) 2/18/10
Fort Stewart Army base killing (Georgia) 12/10/11
Sikh Temple Shooting (Wisconsin) 8/7/12
St. John's Parish police ambush (Louisiana) 8/16/12
Boston Marathon Bombing (Massachusetts) 4/15/13
LAX Shooting (California) 11/05/13
Opinion: Why we're still debating guns in 2015

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MelZ

Please quote accurate numbers, the actual number of firearm deaths last year was just over 11,000 and that included shooting while in the commission of a crime. Gun deaths rank much lower than by motor vehicle and medical malpractice.

Yes, let's quote accurate numbers. The medical error deaths are skewed by a factor of 20 or 30. Do you realize if a patient in a hospital is scheduled to get a Tylenol at 9 AM, the nurse has to administer it between 8:30 and 9:30 or it is considered an "error"? If that patient has terminal cancer and dies during that admission, it is then counted as a death from medical error. The medication "error" rate in the best hospitals is 0.19%. Remember, statistics don't lie, people (usually with an agenda) lie with statistics. If you think this is bad, get medical care in any one of the 28 countries the WHO "ranks" as "better" in health care than the US. Maybe you can join royalty, world leaders and billionaires and flock to "Luxembourg" for health care. Or pull a Hugo Chavez and go to Cuba---how did that work out for him anyway?

[golfing eagles]

PS. Sorry for the off topic rant

[fred53]

Originally Posted by ureout

why would a loud vocal dispute that was between other people be any concern of yours.....as far as you "carrying" SCARY

be a concern of people who choose and are trained in CWP's...until they save your life....

[MelZ]

[twinklesweep]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Went to the Brownwood Dunkin Doughnuts this morn @ 6:30. There was an employee dispute that was way out of control-on the verge of getting violent. The police were called.

Several customers and myself walked out--The store has changed ownership & I will avoid it for awhile, I'll give them a chance to get their act together. I carry a weapon & I make it an absolute must to avoid all any conflicts.

Originally Posted by Butterfly201

He has a right to carry; he has a right to say he carries a gun. However, if someone started shooting, he could have defended himself . It is his right! I don't understand the snide remarks. And with ISIS saying we want to kill you and coming over here and carrying out their threat, why do you question his carrying a gun? ISIS or AlQueda -- They have killed more than 3000 people on 9/11, I don't know how many in Paris, what was it, 14 in CA, and the "office" killing in Ft. Hood where no soldier can carry a gun? How many did he kill? Not counting the journalists etc. Wake up!

I don't think anyone is questioning that there is a law that allows a civilian to carry a concealed weapon. What I wonder about is the motivation of the OP, given her or his title and content, in adding the sentence that I bolded and underlined. It seems to me to have nothing to do with the ugly incident and the altercation between two employees that did not involve customers and that was finally resolved by the police, which is their job to do--and maybe everything to do with the OP!

There was a similar incident at a restaurant just outside TV where there was actually an arrest, as one employee threatened another with a knife, not just a loud argument. It doesn't appear any patrons stopped eating in that restaurant as a result of an incident between two employees that had nothing to do with the customers.