[JoMar]

Originally Posted by stadry

opinions ? these are all opinions,theories, suppositions, wishes since NO one knows,,, vaccine ? we're still waiting for the aids vaccine & that's been since reagan's presidency
my prediction ? more of the same

No matter who makes what decision to open or stay closed it will still come down to how risk adverse we are. If they open the rec centers with restrictions it's still our decision to go. We know there are those that are carriers (asymptomatic) and those that may have had it and recovered. We know we are putting ourselves at risk when we mingle. Since there is no cure or vaccine, (lots of maybes though), if you contract it can't blame it on the government since the decision is always yours.....and we know how that will work out here.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Would it be different if this wasn't an election year?

LOL. World wide pandemics and cratering of economy are different when they happen in non election years. 🙄

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I agree to some extent with the idea of what you post.

Agree that the inside rec centers be closed, or limited with someone to serve as a counter, and limited group sizes, with no loitering in the halls or central area. If a club has more than 15 members, then that club can't have a full-membership meeting inside. If the club only has 5-10 members then they can have their meeting, with chairs spaced appropriately, and any buffet-style treats at the end of the meeting have to be visited one person at a time.

If you open the larger pools only, then everyone who goes to any of the pools, will all try to congregate at only the larger pools. For that reason I would suggest opening ALL the pools but limiting them to ONLY residents of the area. In other words - if you live in the Paradise Rec center area, then you can't go to the Caroline Pool.

If your area doesn't have its own pool you can use the regional pool. If your area has its own pool, you should not be using the regional pool.

And it needs to be, for the time being, residents only. Tenants are residents, so as long as they have a residents' ID, they should have the same privileges. GUESTS should not be permitted, for now at least. Not grandchildren, not kids. Properties are intended to have 2 residents per home. So only 2 resident IDs should be issued to any individual home.

The problem with the squares is people congregating in close quarters. I'd suggest removing the seating entirely - no more seats allowed, not even if you bring them in yourself. That will drastically reduce the number of people who congregate, and limit how long they stay in the area.

Open all businesses to OUTDOOR business only. Sidewalk sales, outdoor eating, etc. It's a sad fact that if you give people an inch, they'll take a mile. If you let exactly 4 people into your boutique, then when one leaves the next one in line will demand to be let in with her spouse and visiting grandkids. It would just be a logistic nightmare to enforce social distancing rules inside cramped boutiques like those in the squares.

For the same reason, instead of weekly, biweekly, or monthly craft fairs - maybe make them daily. Turn the squares into pedestrian traffic only, and make these "events" non-events by making them commonplace.

You'll have fewer people attending on a daily basis, but vendors will still be able to take in a profit because the same number of people will be attending weekly. The population gets spread out, instead of all showing up at once.

I also think it might be possible to implement a drink chit system. You can buy drink credits, and use up to 2 per day. They could be attached to your Villages ID, or drivers' license for the public that doesn't live in the Villages. That way they can't be used by other people.

Absolutely agree - residents only and not guests or twice removed cousins, etc. Yes, your grandchild is cute. Now get it out of my space.

I suggested larger pools because they are monitored somewhat by the person working the desk to prevent overcrowding. The neighborhood pools are a free for all that no one watches.

The idea of a drink limit is not bad but can’t we be booze free for the short term?

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by DianeM

You make it sound like a bad thing if the snowbirds don’t come.

Yes, truth be told, because I bought my Villages place planning to rent it out in the winter and stay at my other home in southeast Florida where it's warmer.

[cb1972]

Its time to move forward and incrementaly restart the economy. Young people and families are being adversely affected . Individuals need to practice whatever mitigation strategies they deem necessary. Rules need to be put into place to protect those at risk , nursing homes , hospitals etc.. Burying our heads in the sand is not helpful and can only lead to a self imposed economic disaster which could cripple our country for years to come.

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by cb1972

Its time to move forward and incrementaly restart the economy. Young people and families are being adversely affected . Individuals need to practice whatever mitigation strategies they deem necessary. Rules need to be put into place to protect those at risk , nursing homes , hospitals etc.. Burying our heads in the sand is not helpful and can only lead to a self imposed economic disaster which could cripple our country for years to come.

Agree with you completely

[skyking]

It seems as though the paranoid want to confine us all indefinitely. If you are worried, stay home. Let the rest of us make our own decisions. As some would say, My body, My choice.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by skyking

It seems as though the paranoid want to confine us all indefinitely. If you are worried, stay home. Let the rest of us make our own decisions. As some would say, My body, My choice.

Here, Here.

Let the Maskies stay home in fear.

Let those who are not paranoid out, open stores, movies and town squares.

Enough already

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Here, Here.

Let the Maskies stay home in fear.

Let those who are not paranoid out, open stores, movies and town squares.

Enough already

Maskies?? What is influencing people to give derogatory nicknames to people with whom they don't agree?

Hear hear [homophones]

[Gpsma]

Yes...Maskies...so afraid...dont realize that their homemade mask is useless.

Masks...saw some paranoid with a scarf wrapped around her head

Really?

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Yes...Maskies...so afraid...dont realize that their homemade mask is useless.

Masks...saw some paranoid with a scarf wrapped around her head

Really?

Truly what’s it to you if people wish to use a mask or scarf ?

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

From what I understand, our country is preparing to reopen soon, perhaps on a "rolling" basis, before there's an effective treatment or vaccine for Covid-19. Testing is also projected to remain difficult to get. I'm curious how you all will respond to the call to resume our activities under these conditions.

If the virus is still lurking and we have no weapons against it other than masks, alcohol and distancing, will you go back to your restaurants, town squares, the rec centers for card games, mahjong, jam sessions, Beatles group, ceramics, wood shop, etc.? Or will you continue to stay at home? I'm surprised TV's powers that be haven't polled the community on this important question. (Note to Winston: have you asked your members if they will indeed show up?)


I just don't see the logic in unleashing us prematurely. If the virus is still out there, large numbers of people, or even small numbers of people if you prefer, will continue to contract it and pass it on. And that's the situation that got us into this mess in the first place. Even though the virus was not widespread, there was enough of it to allow it to spread exponentially. What makes us think the same thing won't happen again? It probably will, and that's the set up for the "second wave" we've been hearing about.

So why would we want to make a bad situation worse? And why would the current administration want to commit political suicide in the process?

I just don't get it. Can anyone shed some light? What a Sophie's Choice on the part of our leaders on both sides, huh? Either let the economy crumble and the population go mad or kill off a segment of our citizenry.

I don't get it either. Frankly, it sounds like the person in charge wants to open things up the first of May, to ostensibly get the economy going, and of course to aid his re-election bid. Against the advice of the health professionals and experts. I think its just plain stupid. I will be careful and doing social distancing until there is a vaccine available or it is obvious the threat of infection is low. Anyways it is up to the Governors to decide when they open up their states - many are saying it will be at least until June.

[billethkid]

Keyboard bravado.
Anonymous disparaging cheap talk is the worst!!

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Keyboard bravado.
Anonymous disparaging cheap talk is the worst!!

Nope..no bravado, just being realistic with no fear.

I see people in fear here. I suspect many come from a non-urban environment and think if they come close to someone they will get immediately infected.

Wonder how people who commuted to work in the NYC subways, Chicago Els, DC metros survived so many flu epidemics...with no colorful maskies on?

[Paper1]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Would it be different if this wasn't an election year?

I don't know you Bogie Shooter but you are right it sure as hell would be.