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Are the Veranda neighborhoods similar to courtyard villa and patio villa neighborhoods? The reason for asking. I was watching a video of the new veranda homes in the village of Oak Hollow and I noticed there was no curbing in front of the homes. The only place I have seen this are in patio and courtyard villa neighborhoods. I am not sure I would want to buy a $500+ thousand dollar home that does not have curbing!
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Are the Veranda neighborhoods similar to courtyard villa and patio villa neighborhoods? The reason for asking. I was watching a video of the new veranda homes in the village of Oak Hollow and I noticed there was no curbing in front of the homes. The only place I have seen this are in patio and courtyard villa neighborhoods. I am not sure I would want to buy a $500+ thousand dollar home that does not have curbing!
Our home is in a mix of Premiere Designer neighborhood. There is curbing on one side of street with gutters/manholes covers on the streets. Residents didn’t have any issues spending 1 million plus for homes
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Have to wonder why curbs as so important. We live in a veranda villa and love it. No curbs in our complex. Our previous Villages neighborhood only had a curb on one part of the street where it was a corner.
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Curbing on the street? What purpose would you want to have curbing in front of your home vs. the troughed curbs that run water to the street drains?
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Veranda communities, like CYV and PV communities have the storm drains in the middle of the streets and the road is an inverted crown (lower in the center) to aid in drainage. The curbs existe as a part of the storm drain system and are an artifact of having sidewalks to prevent their flooding and undermining. As most of TV doesn't have sidewalks it's not really an issue.
Having lived in a cyv community for 11years, I've seen no disadvantages of the lack of curbs.
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Curbing on the street? What purpose would you want to have curbing in front of your home vs. the troughed curbs that run water to the street drains?
That is the question. These homes had neither. The grass ends at the blacktop roadway. No water control during storms. Hard to prevent parking on your grass. I am sure there are storm drains somewhere. In the middle of the street?
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That is the question. These homes had neither. The grass ends at the blacktop roadway. No water control during storms. Hard to prevent parking on your grass. I am sure there are storm drains somewhere. In the middle of the street?
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That is the question. These homes had neither. The grass ends at the blacktop roadway. No water control during storms. Hard to prevent parking on your grass. I am sure there are storm drains somewhere. In the middle of the street?
We’ve had homes in two different courtyard villas Villages. There was usually concrete abutting the roadway. In the few sections where the grass abutted the roadway, eventually the grass would grow through the roadway and it looked like heck.
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That’s why we use an edger before it looks like that.
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That’s why we use an edger before it looks like that.
I agree our lawn service edged every week. We had all curb, and the grass still grows over the curb just as easily as growing over no curb. Curb doesn't stop growing
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I am with you. Curbing prevents erosion of your lawn and keeps some vehicle tires off.
I run and occasionally get caught in the rain. We get gully washers here. There is actually a current in the curbed streets that is hard to walk/run against. They do direct the storm water better than uncurbed streets with little slope.

I would also look at how high up the entrance to your home is. If we have several rain events in a short time, the ponds may overflow like during our last big storm. Water was at the top of the street drains and ponds. The Villages does a great job with storm water, but one more storm and some homes would be visited by water. The villas/homes with minimal driveway slope on streets with no curbs could see damage.
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Are the Veranda neighborhoods similar to courtyard villa and patio villa neighborhoods? The reason for asking. I was watching a video of the new veranda homes in the village of Oak Hollow and I noticed there was no curbing in front of the homes. The only place I have seen this are in patio and courtyard villa neighborhoods. I am not sure I would want to buy a $500+ thousand dollar home that does not have curbing!
Verandas are designer homes (same floorplans) but with privacy fencing. They’re not villas, therefore higher priced. We aren’t bothered by no curb, and have never had a flooding issue. We wanted a private backyard so that’s the reason we bought one. They’re very popular with dog owners because of the fence, and sell very quickly once new ones are released mainly for that reason. Our gardener keeps grass from growing into the street by edging as part of the lawn maintenance. To me that concrete strip on the street in designer neighborhoods looks more like a gutter than a curb, but I can see where it would help keep parked cars off a lawn. We’ve never had a problem with that thankfully, but since the streets in TV are so narrow it’s rare to see a car parked on the street for an extended time. It’s mainly just contractors parking temporarily when doing a job.
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My wife and I noticed a beautiful neighborhood of Verandas while walking between holes 17 and 18 on the Mickey Lee Pitch & Putt golf course. Although we live in a designer home and are very happy with it, we discussed that if we were shopping for a home in The Villages, we'd defiantly look at Verandas, which seem to offer the benefits of both Homes and Villas.
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Most newer communities are designed with no curbs. The storm drain run off is designed to expedite water runoff to the central street drains. Every two years you’ll see a big vacuum truck come in and clean the drains. They are meticulous about keeping drainage here optimum. No need for old fashioned curbs. That’s an outdated urban design structure in new communities.
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