[OBXNana]

The crowds aren't caused by renters. If the people owning the house were in the house and not occupied by a renter, it would be the same number of people. The crowds and wait time would be identical.

If it weren't for the snowbirds and renters, The Villages would be crowded year round and not just the winter months.

[Birdie Dreamer]

Originally Posted by OBXNana

The crowds aren't caused by renters. If the people owning the house were in the house and not occupied by a renter, it would be the same number of people. The crowds and wait time would be identical.
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While I do not have any issue with snowbirds and renters (they are an important part of a successful economy here), I do think they have an effect on the crowds.

In my limited experience, some snowbirds and most renters ( particularly the one month renters) understandably want to make the most of their time here and try their best to participate in everything. Whereas year round residents are happy to stay at home from time to time. JMHO.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Birdie Dreamer

While I do not have any issue with snowbirds and renters (they are an important part of a successful economy here), I do think they have an effect on the crowds.

In my limited experience, some snowbirds and most renters ( particularly the one month renters) understandably want to make the most of their time here and try their best to participate in everything. Whereas year round residents are happy to stay at home from time to time. JMHO.

[jimmy D]

Gracie are you back?? I thought you said you were done with posting

[Halle]

Originally Posted by Birdie Dreamer

While I do not have any issue with snowbirds and renters (they are an important part of a successful economy here), I do think they have an effect on the crowds.

In my limited experience, some snowbirds and most renters ( particularly the one month renters) understandably want to make the most of their time here and try their best to participate in everything. Whereas year round residents are happy to stay at home from time to time. JMHO.

You also have many homes that are shared by four or more renters while the majority of homes occupied by full time residents or snowbirds have less.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by cquick

said it before,will say it again:

I LOVE THE SNOWBIRDS! THE VILLAGES WOULDN'T BE THE SAME WITHOUT THEM! KEEP 'EM COMING!

Yepper !!! Everybody makes money when they are here!!

[Bonny]

We moved here 14 years ago. There were about 22,000 people here.
I laugh now when I remember some of the people back then that used to say the Villages is just too big.

[Bizdoc]

When did The Villages become too big? Simple. The Villages became too big when they kept building after I bought my home. <wink>

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

"An employee of TV told me that he had never seen as many renters as he has this month and he has lived here for many years.". How would he know a renter from an owner?

Because his job requires he know the difference. P L E A S E

Personal Best Regards:

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Because his job requires he know the difference. P L E A S E

Personal Best Regards:

What is his job?

[villagerjack]

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[PennBF]

I don't think the question is whether the Village's are too big but rather what services, business, etc. are not growing fast enough to meet the population needs, As we grow the crime rate will grow and we will need better/more Police coverage. The sheriff's dept is great but not built to handle over 100,000 people. we need more and better resturants to do this there must be better deals for them and not looked at as a potential income delta for the Developer, we need better traffic controls which would come from serving the Law Enforcement needs, we need to set aside enough land to handle these needs and not use every acre for building houses without the supporting requirements to accomondate them. I could go on and on but the basics are not if the Villages are too big but is the need for support requirements understated. There is a very strong potential for "under planning" for business/services infrastructors and just putting up buildings. It is pretty safe to assume that Brownwood will not handle the very large number of residents in the area + the outside people who will come. Less anyone think this is just "smoke" it would be well to remember that monies were not put aside to maintain the Paradise Rec Center and in the end it took a law suit and $40M fine to wake the residents up. We have a great community but should not rest that someone is looking out for our futue as the homes grow. That is not the Developer's responsibility but is the residents. It is our responsibilty to ensure as the Village's grow it remains balanced with needs.

[De Lis]

Not now, but when Fruitland is developed, then yes. Will need a car to access the rec centers / classes.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by De Lis

Not now, but when Fruitland is developed, then yes. Will need a car to access the rec centers / classes.

The Fruitland Park area to be developed is not far away, just right next to Sanibel and will be golf cart accessible. I think that a lot of people think that the new area will not be contiguous, will be way down 466A, but that is not the case. It will just be more villages to the immediate east of Sanibel.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I don't think the question is whether the Village's are too big but rather what services, business, etc. are not growing fast enough to meet the population needs, As we grow the crime rate will grow and we will need better/more Police coverage. The sheriff's dept is great but not built to handle over 100,000 people. we need more and better resturants to do this there must be better deals for them and not looked at as a potential income delta for the Developer, we need better traffic controls which would come from serving the Law Enforcement needs, we need to set aside enough land to handle these needs and not use every acre for building houses without the supporting requirements to accomondate them. I could go on and on but the basics are not if the Villages are too big but is the need for support requirements understated. There is a very strong potential for "under planning" for business/services infrastructors and just putting up buildings. It is pretty safe to assume that Brownwood will not handle the very large number of residents in the area + the outside people who will come. Less anyone think this is just "smoke" it would be well to remember that monies were not put aside to maintain the Paradise Rec Center and in the end it took a law suit and $40M fine to wake the residents up. We have a great community but should not rest that someone is looking out for our futue as the homes grow. That is not the Developer's responsibility but is the residents. It is our responsibilty to ensure as the Village's grow it remains balanced with needs.

Good points.