[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

It's not the change (like trousers to pants)...

It's WHY they keep making these ridiculous changes...

I doubt it is anything substantive. Probably more like people trying mightily to impress and outdo one another by showing each other and the world just how virtuous they are.

[Djean1981]

Do not comply.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

People are so easily offended. Different meanings for different people, but not anymore. We must now adjust to the offended.

But only if "certain" people are offended...

[sallyg]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

We shall now refer to you as "Circle-K Man"...

Circle K "person." 😁

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

I doubt it is anything substantive. Probably more like people trying mightily to impress and outdo one another by showing each other and the world just how virtuous they are.

Prezactly! But a slow leak can turn into a flood...

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by remarks006

What a sad statement you make. People who fear change and fight it are the reason women could not get a credit card until the 1970’s without a husband’s permission. Yea,,, you read that right. Change helps us grow. Education helps us understand why we need to evolve. I suggest a dose of both so you too , can become a better, more aware human being.

This "change " accomplishes what? make what difference ? other than to signal one has the required guilt of a historical wrong

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

Language evolves. Old terms and phrases go away in favor of something else. No one says "twenty three skidoo" or "outa sight" anymore. No big deal.

I do!

[Haggar]

Originally Posted by rsimpson

This is not a case of evolving language. This is part of the continued WOKE attack on our language and history. Our country, life, liberty, and freedom of speach are all a big deal.

Webster's dictionary defines "woke" as "being aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues"

OED defines it as "well informed, up to date".

Certain dictionaries have added "to racism and social injustice".

Someone explain why being "woke" is a bad thing. It has been hijacked by politicians to support certain views and perhaps create an issue where there is none!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

This "change " accomplishes what? make what difference ? other than to signal one has the required guilt of a historical wrong

Agreed.

I would submit however that history is neither right nor wrong. It is merely a chronology of events. To presume to judge the actions of one time with the evolved (one would hope) moral sensibilities of a later time is in my opinion sophistic in the extreme. We can study history. Hopefully we can learn from history. But we can never change, or even more to the point, ERASE history. To do so is a distinct disservice to everyone.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that TV new home floor plans label the “Master” suite and bath as “Primary”.

A subtle indication of softness which is spreading across our country. Words hurt? It continues for anything that may “offend” someone in our language use.

I can’t stand political correctness. I don’t call American Indians Native Americans because the vast majority want to be called Indians. I don’t use the term Latinx because virtually no Hispanic people use the term. But I can live with Primary bedrooms and bathrooms instead of Master because Master was pretty silly to begin with. I would also be okay with “the biggest bedroom,” or other options.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Haggar

Webster's dictionary defines "woke" as "being aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues"

OED defines it as "well informed, up to date".

Certain dictionaries have added "to racism and social injustice".

Someone explain why being "woke" is a bad thing. It has been hijacked by politicians to support certain views and perhaps create an issue where there is none!

Woke is just a rebranding of ultra libs/progressives.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"It is infuriating to see our history being erased."


What history is being "erased" and how is it supposedly being done? Refusing to glorify the ugly parts of our country's history (treason from some states and those who led it) with monuments/statues/plaques/etc., is far from erasing history and is in fact simply shining a bright light on it - so that we can learn and not repeat those abhorrent mistakes.

Book banning and the refusal to discuss real race history, are much more of a threat to this country ever reaching its full potential and promise of equality.

The real problem for so many, is that factual history is being revealed/disseminated to more and more people and that is outrageous to them. For instance, how many had been taught, or knew, of the Tulsa Race Massacre - until recent years?

Be assured, that the outrage of changing the name of the largest bedroom in a house to 'owner's suite/primary bedroom' is not a coincidence that it's coming from whites - who would have been historically considered...'The Master's.'

I am really concerned with book banning. One book frequently banned by conservative groups is "Beloved" by Toni Morrison. Scholars say one of the reasons Morrison’s books in particular are controversial is because they address dark moments in American history that can be uncomfortable for some people to talk about. Beloved, for example, is inspired by the true story of an enslaved woman who killed her daughter in 1856 to spare her from slavery. Morrison tried to convey the trauma of the legacy of slavery to her readers. That is a violent legacy. Her books do not sugarcoat or use euphemisms. And people have trouble with that. Banning a book like this does not protect kids in any way, it just sanitizes racism.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Steve

I do!

Oh you kid! That is the cat's meow.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that TV new home floor plans label the “Master” suite and bath as “Primary”.

A subtle indication of softness which is spreading across our country. Words hurt? It continues for anything that may “offend” someone in our language use.

I would NOT call it WOKE because that IS just a derogatory putdown. The US is in the beginning stages of accepting the fact that the population demographics of the US are changing. America is SUPPOSED to be a "MELTING POT" and has ALWAYS bragged about that TITLE. So why is it today that we are INCREDIBLY worried about the COMPLETELY UNSTOPPABLE future blending or melting of the races? DNA tests show that many Caucasians have African DNA and Genghis Kahn DNA in them.
........Woke is the past tense of aware. It means someone is awake and not sleeping.
.........Most YOUNGER people buying real estate will have NO problem adapting to the word PRIMARY for a bedroom. Words and language constantly evolve and there IS no stopping it. Just like America has evolved its demographic ethnic percentages. I would be fine with a TOTAL blending in the FUTURE.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Whining about this is simply another example, of those who weren't smart enough to know that Archie Bunker was meant to be a caricature of an abhorrent human being...not a role model. lol

LOL .........and that is also an example of a language change brought about by a technology change........the ubiquitous cell phone that people fall asleep to while in their PRIMARY BEDROOM.