[Irish Rover]

Graciegirl you didn't read the sentence correctly. I didn't say the Morse family had another development but there are other over 55 communities (Sun City etc.) that had problems after the developer pulled out. Liesureville discusses those other developments. I'm just thinking that everyone should be prepared for any contingency instead of living hour to hour or day to day.

[barb1191]

Originally Posted by SteveFromNY

Well the trolley isn't what I think of as an amenity. It's really just a sales tour of TV.

I don't know about the polo club - I have no idea how that's managed today.

I was thinking pools and golf!

I was under the impression that the trolley was also a shuttle for residents going all around TV with scheduled stops at stores and clubs. Haven't been in TV for awhile; has this service been discontinued?

barb

[ladykathleen]

The developer has already sold our shopping centers. Remember he has only one and only one mind set and it has absolutley nothing to do with our welfare. He could stay here forever and still sell the golf courses for condos. After he finishes with this area (building) he does not have to pretend to provide a pleasant place for us to live. His welfare and money will no longer depend on selling "a bill of goods).

[graciegirl]

How old are most of you? How long will you live independently? I consider that for that time we will be safe. After we exit stage right, who cares?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Irish Rover

Graciegirl you didn't read the sentence correctly. I didn't say the Morse family had another development but there are other over 55 communities (Sun City etc.) that had problems after the developer pulled out. Liesureville discusses those other developments. I'm just thinking that everyone should be prepared for any contingency instead of living hour to hour or day to day.

You are right. I speed read sometimes and didn't catch it. (I used to be blonde, sorry) But Irish, that is true in any development. We have lived on three golf courses and each has been sold. I prefer to live hour to hour and day to day. You can worry yourself into the grave. But that is just my outlook now, after a lifetime of planning and worrying and saving. The time is now. This is not a dress rehearsal. Enjoy it. If we have all invested badly, we can't take it with us for sure.

[angel222]

Hi All....

This is quite a lively discussion...I'm a TV wannabee - put my townhouse up for sale the day after I returned from a lifetime preview visit on 7/6/08. First, please explain what's CDD? Also what time frame (approximately) are we talking about before all will be sold out? I live in a townhouse community now that's going to "pot" from all the political games going on -- please tell me I can move to TV and enjoy to rest of my lifes journey.

Thanks,
Angel

[Russ_Boston]

Well I guess it depends on how much time in your life's journey :joke:

At the current rate of construction and sales the final build out of the brownwood section should be 2013/2014. If the slowdown continued it may be 2015 but then again if sales pick up at the same pace they did from 2007 to 2008 it may be sold out by 2012.

My math: To my reckoning they have about 16000 more units to build. The Morse family reported sales in the 3000 per year rate for the past 6 months. Sound about right?

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by livsea2

The one thing that concerns me ( and I must admit it concerns me a lot) is the "special CDD " that controls the rec centers and golf courses. It is now and always will be under the control of the developer. No residents of the villages live in that CDD so no one but the developer can control it. It has happened, especially in South Carolina, that after the development is sold out when the developer controlled the golf courses he decided the golf course wasn't needed for marketing and wasn't making enough money that land was better suited for condos!
The villagers don't own the golf courses and once development is complete they loose their marketing value? HHMMM? Shouldn't I be concerned? Just wondering.

This is a concern of mine as well. I'm hoping that some well-informed people can respond that these concerns have no merit.

[Muncle]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Well I guess it depends on how much time in your life's journey :joke:

At the current rate of construction and sales the final build out of the brownwood section should be 2013/2014. If the slowdown continued it may be 2015 but then again if sales pick up at the same pace they did from 2007 to 2008 it may be sold out by 2012.

My math: To my reckoning they have about 16000 more units to build. The Morse family reported sales in the 3000 per year rate for the past 6 months. Sound about right?

Russ, based on your calculations, which appear quite reasonable, many of us will be dead long before build-out. So, why worry too much? I had planned on living forever, but have come to the realization that that ain't gonna happen. Que sera sera.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by barb1191

I was under the impression that the trolley was also a shuttle for residents going all around TV with scheduled stops at stores and clubs. Haven't been in TV for awhile; has this service been discontinued?

barb

The trolley is not a shuttle. It is a guided tour of the area.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

How old are most of you? How long will you live independently? I consider that for that time we will be safe. After we exit stage right, who cares?

[billethkid]

I have been part of transition teams from developer to home owner. The key is UNDERSTANDING, what is being inherited.....land......$$$....assets...etc...elec ting home owner representatives with the capacity and capability to communicate EFFECTIVELY with the developer REPRESENTING the home owners needs and wants. Then electing the appropriately capable people capable of managing what will be inherited.....MAINTAINING THE EXISTING LIFESTYLE they bought into.

If, the usual happens....the silent majority remains silent....then there can only be disappointment.

Things will change....that is a certainty. Foe example if/when the home owners find how much it really cost to have and maintain a polo field, etc.....I suspect the majority (hopefully) would rule against it and use the asset value for maintaining the lifestyle.

My experience was a successful one. The objective of the transition team and ultimate managing board was to maintain the lifestyle and protect and enhance property values.
The property owner community is still a thriving success (14 years hence).

I hope to live a lot longer than the developer here in TV will be around....and have no trepidations about losing what we have. Could it happen? Of course!!!! Only if we let/allow it!!!!!!!!! I did not know the Schwartz family, hence cannot comment. I do know Gary Morse and several of the family members who run/operate TV and find them very responsive and as proud of TV as you and I.

Of course they got riche and we should hope they get richer.....they have have earned what we willingly bought into eh!

BTK

BTK

[Russ_Boston]

Well said BTK.

[KayakerNC]

BTK,
My original concern was that the "Vision" of The Villages might suffer after the departure of the original owners and developers.
But....
As long as people like you remain active and involved, then The Villages will continue to be the best retirement community for all of us who are considering living, or now living, in The Villages.

Nelson