[Rokinronda]

OK I must say I've read this post and am very disheartened at the VNN response to a legal responsability!! ADA is law and should have been used since day 1! Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
Coordination and Review Section

The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) gives civil rights protections to individuals with disabilities that are like those provided to individuals on the basis of race, sex, national origin, and religion. It guarantees equal opportunity for individuals with disabilities in employment, public accommodations, transportation, State and local government services, and telecommunications!!. (thanks Chels!) Jan are you considering advertising TOTV on VNN??? Problem solved!! Without a suit. (and I'm not talking a goodwill suit!)

Closed captioning-- http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/closedcaption.html

Undue burden exemption-- http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/closedcaption.html

[Rokinronda]

Hmmmm Thanks again Tal, live and learn...............this is a retirement community, and it just would have been the proper way to handle the request, JUST DO IT............always loved that advertising slogan.

[chelsea24]

Would $65 a day be considered an "Undue Burden" for a retirement community? :dontknow:

Looks like a lot of church groups which produce their own TV have made requests for an exempt status from the FCC closed captioning rules. I did not click through them to see if they had been successful. http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/caption_exemptions.html

[Rokinronda]

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Would $65 a day be considered an "Undue Burden" for a retirement community? :dontknow:

:bigthumbsup:

Originally Posted by Rokinronda

:bigthumbsup:

Probably depends on their monthly budget and the like. I mean for VNN's.

They could easily cover this with more advertising as Talk Host pointed out in some post??

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Tal! You always find the answers!

I am not sure that Tal gave any answers. He just referred you to the usual gobblegook that is used to try to get out of something.

I have to agree with Jan that there are enough businesses that would be willing to pay the costs of the Closed Caption.

I see Dean and Bates and the different business in Buffalo Trace, Summe Trace, Colony Grove, Rolling Acres, Lowe's, Wal-Mart, and Home Depot as viable customers along with all of the golf shops. In face maybe the Villages themselves. They spend enough on cxommercials on the varions golf programs on TV. Why not spend a little on their own community?

[pwdasher]

I too have lost my hearing and have been blessed with a cochlear implant for 7 years. Until you've been in "this bubble, alone", you'll never understand the importance of captioning. The captions are God send to those of us who can't hear to watch the news or enjoy a movie without it..a little kindness and some consideration is due here.
Thanks for "listening"
Pam

[chelsea24]

Nice post PW. I'm very happy for you. I know how that cochlear implant changes you life. It truly is a miracle. :bigthumbsup:

[RCT]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

I am not sure that Tal gave any answers. He just referred you to the usual gobblegook that is used to try to get out of something.

I have to agree with Jan that there are enough businesses that would be willing to pay the costs of the Closed Caption.

I see Dean and Bates and the different business in Buffalo Trace, Summe Trace, Colony Grove, Rolling Acres, Lowe's, Wal-Mart, and Home Depot as viable customers along with all of the golf shops. In face maybe the Villages themselves. They spend enough on cxommercials on the varions golf programs on TV. Why not spend a little on their own community?

Wouldn't that be like preaching to the choir, though?

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by RCT

Wouldn't that be like preaching to the choir, though?

I am not sure I understand.

[RCT]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

I am not sure I understand.

My take on what you were suggesting, was that TV developers advertise on the VNN? I was wondering why advertise to people you already have as customers? Or am I getting the wrong take on your comments?

[Hyacinth Bucket]

If my memory serves me correctly I think hearing loss is the #1 disability. Cruise lines and tour groups have taken this into consideration and have changed the way they do things. Hotels offer optional equipment for people who are hearing impaired.

:cop: This is off the subject. One of our elected local town officials at a public hearing in reference to the library felt that books on tape and large print books were not books. He did not even think that people in the community could be visually or hearing impaired.

:cop: My business cards have been imprinted in Braille. When people see them they think I have the dots on them so that they will be picked in a drawing, they are seconds and I can not afford to have the cards reprinted, they ask me if they connect the dots on my cards in a specific order will they win a prize, etc. The above statements come from individuals who have college degrees and post college degrees.

Sorry I got off subject.

Chels 100% with what you wrote.

Z 100% with you.

HB

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by RCT

My take on what you were suggesting, was that TV developers advertise on the VNN? I was wondering why advertise to people you already have as customers? Or am I getting the wrong take on your comments?

If you are not a hard of hearing person and do not rely on Closed Caption (CC) then you would not understand.

When we have CC and watch commercials without CC all we hear is (NOTHING). If DEAN, BATES and all of the others would add CC to their ads we might actually understand what they are selling. Because you don't use CC you do not see the blurb after the show that says this show was sponsored by xxx for the CC people. We tend to support the products of those that provide us the CC coverage.

All TVS have CC now. Go thru the MENU and turn it on turn off the sound and watch what we need to watch a TV program and see how many commercials do not have CC. Try to follow a program with no sound and only the CC to see what an effort it is (at the beginning) to watch the show and understand the conversations.

Please give us a break and think about our problem.