[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Yeah, I'm not buying that. How many of us want to live on the street practically with little driveway? NOT!

Then don't buy it! Many people ARE buying them, since they don't want the big (unusable) front yards...

I've got about 15' of back yard from the back of my lanai. I would have gladly given up a few feet of my front yard to have more yard in the back...

Luckily, the street behind me is a cul-de-sac and I don't have inyone directly behiind me. Just the side yards of my back yard neighbors...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Aces4

We think just the opposite, enclosed the lanai and landscaping makes a kissing lanai no problem but we don't want our vehicles parked with the bumper feet from the street when we need to park outside the garages. Right in the street and you may as well live in a brownstone in Boston that is feet from the curb.

Unless you have a land yacht, or a huge truck, that isn't a problem...

Me thinks you're exaggerating just a bit...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

they have cut back on courses in the south and the maintenance of these courses has gone astray, JMHO

They are building multiple executive and championship courses south of 44. Patience grasshopper..

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

They are building multiple executive and championship courses south of 44. Patience grasshopper..

They always in the past built the golf courses first not after the developed housing areas. The newer generations are not as interested in golf which brings Eastport. Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.
The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

They always in the past built the golf courses first not after the developed housing areas. The newer generations are not as interested in golf which brings Eastport. Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.
The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

The Villages always opens the golf courses before homes are purchased or built. It removes the liability of golf ball damage from the golfers.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.

Really? How much is "ginourmous" in dollars?

If they're "not as profitable as people think", how much do they make? How much is the revenue? Expenses? Fixed costs. Please enlighten us.

Originally Posted by Chellybean

The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

The Villages directly manage the maintenance of what golf courses?

Other than the newer courses in South, the maintenance of all the other Championship Golf Courses was contracted out to one of (3-4) companies, as of last year.

[Topspinmo]

I guess the sales pitch “the build out nearly complete” better buy now not tactic/sales pitch point any more?

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

They always in the past built the golf courses first not after the developed housing areas. The newer generations are not as interested in golf which brings Eastport. Believe what you want but the golf course are not as profitable as people think and the upkeep is a ginormous expense.
The maintenance of these courses has fell by the waste side and now the villages is directly managing the maintenance now and got rid of the management company years ago!

And that still happens. The new course in Wellpoint / Oak Hollow was nearly complete before the first house was built. Same with Laurel Oak. The new course south of Bexley Trail is being built now, and there are no homes there.

Yes yes I know that this is not what some want to hear. However, you are welcome to take a drive down Bexley and have a look for yourself.

[jimhoward]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I guess the sales pitch “the build out nearly complete” better buy now not tactic/sales pitch point any more?

I definitely never got that sales pitch. It was more like " the villages owns land pretty much as far as you can see, and they plan to keep building indefinitely"

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by jimhoward

I definitely never got that sales pitch. It was more like " the villages owns land pretty much as far as you can see, and they plan to keep building indefinitely"

Difference between a very new residents perspective and sales pitch versus the experience of much more seasoned residents. Based on the above referenced TOTV join date, it’s a newbie’s perspective.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Where in Gods name do you think the the liability is removed from the golfer!!!!
Unbelievable entitlement!!!!

There is at least one other long thread about that.

Golf courses and golfers are not liable for unintentional damage to homes along a golf course. That *might* be one of the documents signed at closing.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

LOL try that argument in front of a judge!
Nothing is signed at closing on a golf lot exempting a golfer of responsibility.
Unbelievable entitlement!
YOU ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE whether its unintentional or intentional, at least that's how i was raised!

Well I guess if you say it in caps then it must be true.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Where in Gods name do you think the the liability is removed from the golfer!!!!
Unbelievable entitlement!!!!

You Don’t engage with the golfer…On the property that you chose to purchase knowing there will be damages at some point. If the golfer chooses an offer it’s kind of them, because they are not responsible according to insurance adjusters.

Up north all the years living on Oakland Hills, if a member or their guest hit into a home, the caddy would leave information for the homeowner. Most homeowners would just take care of the damage themselves.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

LOL try that argument in front of a judge!
Nothing is signed at closing on a golf lot exempting a golfer of responsibility.
Unbelievable entitlement!
YOU ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE whether its unintentional or intentional, at least that's how i was raised!

It may be how you were raised, but Florida law protects golfers due to presumption of risk which homeowners assume when living on a golf course.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Where in Gods name do you think the the liability is removed from the golfer!!!!
Unbelievable entitlement!!!!

It was removed by the Home Owner, when they purchased a home on a golf course and assumed the inherent risk associated with living on a golf course.

No different than folks who buy homes near airports or prisons ... they assume the risk.