[Sjshanl]

So glad to read in today’s Sun how the PWAC has found a way to collect more trail fees. Looking forward to the improved course conditions paid for by us Priority Golf Subscribers. Great job you “money suckers”!

[dewilson58]

Feel Better???

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Sjshanl

So glad to read in today’s Sun how the PWAC has found a way to collect more trail fees. Looking forward to the improved course conditions paid for by us Priority Golf Subscribers. Great job you “money suckers”!

Easy just don't play the Executives we'll show them

[rustyp]

A quote from the online article:

“The agreement is complicated. The AAC will make its own decision,” said PWAC Chairman Don Wiley.

Obviously was too complicated to explain to us the residents.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Sjshanl

So glad to read in today’s Sun how the PWAC has found a way to collect more trail fees. Looking forward to the improved course conditions paid for by us Priority Golf Subscribers. Great job you “money suckers”!

According to the developer, priority members were the ones getting a free ride on the Executives.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

Easy just don't play the Executives we'll show them

Or get out of your cart and walk, unless a 9-hole par-3 course is too much for you.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by rustyp

A quote from the online article:

“The agreement is complicated. The AAC will make its own decision,” said PWAC Chairman Don Wiley.

Obviously was too complicated to explain to us the residents.

Read it yourself, or do you need Don to explain it to you.

[Moderator]

Everybody be nice to one another.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Read it yourself, or do you need Don to explain it to you.

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Feel Better???

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Or get out of your cart and walk, unless a 9-hole par-3 course is too much for you.

Have you ever played Mangrove? Between #1 and 2?

Loblolly between #6 and 7?

You’ll be calling Uber.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

Loblolly between #6 and 7?

We don't play that course. It is unacceptable to require walkers to walk along a MMP.

We do not play exec courses with unreasonably long walks, like Escambia #8 to #9.

We do not play courses that do not have parking for our car, like Sand Hill.

But there are several Exec courses that we really enjoy walking. We find most of them to be in very good shape with fast greens and good sand in the bunkers.

[Sjshanl]

$740 per year for a single that currently includes trail fees doesn’t sound like a “free ride” to me. Can’t wait to see what the new reduced Priority rates will be.

[pauld315]

Originally Posted by Sjshanl

$740 per year for a single that currently includes trail fees doesn’t sound like a “free ride” to me. Can’t wait to see what the new reduced Priority rates will be.

Haha .... Priority fees go directly to the developer, don't expect any reduction

[Papa_lecki]

The good news is, the money PWAC will get from the trail fees has been spent on the Brownwood woodworking facility - $80,000 for an awning and $40,000 for an air compressor.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Sjshanl

$740 per year for a single that currently includes trail fees doesn’t sound like a “free ride” to me. Can’t wait to see what the new reduced Priority rates will be.

Did you miss this post?

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

Over the last few months there has been more clarity brought to this situation and the inclusion of the trail fee in the priority membership.

First, the inclusion of the executive course trail fee was for the priority membership holder only, if the rest of the household wanted the executive course trail fee it was sold at 75% of the normal rate.

The inclusion of the executive course trail fee with the priority membership was a holdover from the days when the developer owned all the courses - championship and executive, the majority of executive courses are now owned by the SLCDD and the VCCDD.

The inclusion of the executive course trail fee with the priority membership derived no benefit to the budgets that maintain the executive courses. No revenue was received from the developer for these included trail fees. For lack of a better term, they were a gift from the VCCDD and the SLCDD to the developer and the residents who purchased the priority membership. The only time there is revenue received related to the priority membership is when the reduced trail fee is paid for the remainder of the household.

The only people who are benefiting from the current agreement are the minority that are receiving the "free" trail fee, the remainder, the rest of the residents, are having to (unjustly?) carry their costs associated with executive course play.

Since the developer is not paying for the inclusion of the executive course trail fee with the priority membership, there will not be a change in the priority membership rate, they have made that perfectly clear. They are not profiting from either the current or proposed Trail Fee policy.

The SLCDD and VCCDD are governmental bodies, there is no justification or requirement to provide preferential treatment to any one resident, group of residents, or business entity.

If the AAC wants to have additional public discussion on this topic, all of the information should be made crystal clear before the few who are benefiting from the current agreement start to vent their rage. If the AAC decides not to change the current policy as proposed, they should then be ready to justify and explain to the rest of the non-priority membership residents that are paying a trail fee 1) why they should continue to give this service away 2) why the non-priory residents should continue to cover the costs and 3) why non-priority resident should not also receive either free or a discounted trail fee. There is no reasonable justification for any of these.

Executive golf is still free, if you walk the course, with or without your own hand cart, you pay nothing to play. The trail fee is a convenience fee to allow you to use your own cart on the course and cover the additional wear and tear on the course these carts bring. The costs associated with cart wear are significant and were part of the justification of the change a year ago in the Reasonable Accommodations policy.

With respect to the rest of the proposed agreement, these are needed changes. Revenue sharing of trail fees is now clearly defined. The cost of providing the on-line service will now be shared based on a benefit received based calculation method - the developer will pay a higher percentage of the actual costs. The ability to pay your trail fee and/or priority membership fees on-line will finally be available. An avenue will now be available to make changes to the on-line reservation system - perhaps we can now move into the 21 centry and have a phone app to make reservations instead of having to rely on a web page. Trail fees will include a CPI adjustment to help cover the continued increasing costs of the additional course maintenance.