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Wearing a mask protects others ---ONLY IF THE WEARER HAS COVID !
I don't wear it most of the time. Only in stores that ask you to cover before entering.
Most anti-maskers don't wear one because it's a pain in the butt, and they don't have Covid, so there is no reason to "protect" others. I think that it's simple to understand.
If you have a cough going on, then don a mask till it goes away. And isolate yourself as much as reasonably possible. That's the right thing to do. But don't chastise me if my face isn't covered.
Unfortunately, you may be contagious before you feel symptoms. If you are not wearing a mask at that point, you are part of the problem.
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Unfortunately, you may be contagious before you feel symptoms. If you are not wearing a mask at that point, you are part of the problem.
IF you are "contagious", but not coughing, sneezing or spraying you words and 6 feet away from others, you cannot infect anyone. Just don't go around kissing strangers
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Sacrifice? Many Americans don't know the meaning of the word. We won't even allow taxes to be raised to pay for all our government programs, but try to cut any and the screaming starts.
and wailing about the 2021 Cola being 1.3 % every other year it’s just a boring complaint, but this year it’s disgusting to hear people complain while so many people have no jobs and are in danger of being evicted from there homes
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We are burning through nurses and doctors. I hope it's the ones who refuse to wear masks who end up with no medical care.
Terrible thing to say
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“the science®”says that wearing a mask provides a level of protection and since my household follows “the science ®” we wear ours at all times.
24/7, 365. ???
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During World War II, Americans were asked to make many sacrifices. They were asked to limit their consumption of meat and processed foods because the soldiers abroad needed them. Sugar rations were half of what people normally consumed. Gasoline was limited to three gallons per week. People were asked to wear warmer clothes so that less fuel was needed to heat their homes and offices. People were asked to take shorter showers. People were even asked to contribute their rubber hoses so they could be converted into tires. These were REAL sacrifices and, thankfully, most Americans did their patriotic duty to help in the war effort. And, although such sacrifices were hard on civilians, they were NOTHING compared to what many men and women sacrificed when the put their very lives on the line to fight the enemy. I doubt that a large percentage of the populace complained that their rights were being taken away. People were true patriots then and they showed it by making sacrifices to help with the war effort instead of merely wrapping themselves in the flag and proclaiming their “rights.”

We are at war again. But this time the enemy is invisible. The enemy doesn’t honor front lines, but sneaks past those who risk their lives every day to fight this war. If the enemy touches you, you become an unwitting assistant in its battle against us. This increases the risk to our friends, families, and our front-line “soldiers,” the people who work in our hospitals and clinics. But, we know how to win this war. It really is quite easy. If we all made the tiniest sacrifice of wearing a mask, we could beat this enemy in no time. Such sacrifices are NOTHING compared to what our parents made to win WW2. So, we now call them “The Greatest Generation.” Sounds pretty good, doesn’t it? Do you think we rate such a moniker? I don’t think so. Because of our defiance in helping with the war effort, we will probably be known in the future as something more like “The Selfish Generation.” Many of us refused to wear a mask because it was our “right” to go uncovered. Really? Oh, the humanity! We greedily hoarded toilet paper, sanitizer, and the PPE that robbed our front-line soldiers of the battle gear they needed to fight the war. We are NOT patriots. We pale in comparison to our parents. We should be ashamed.

Be a REAL patriot. Wear a mask.
Some very good points and well said. In general, it seems that each generation gets more spoiled, more selfish, more narcissistic than the previous one. Both patriotism and common sense are falling by the wayside. The whole country is in deep trouble, and not just from this pandemic. I predict it will be at least another full year before this current virus runs its course/gets under control.
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Unfortunately, you may be contagious before you feel symptoms. If you are not wearing a mask at that point, you are part of the problem.
And what would the chances of that be ????
In the thousands of one percent? Got a better chance of being struck by lightning.
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If someone NOT Wearing a mask gets up in your face, could you shot them in self defense?
under Florida law, of course.
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And yet another individual worshiping at the altar of the holy mask. Masks can be useful in the appropriate setting, but they are not a suit of armor, they are not magical, and they are not worth the hysteria surrounding them. Right now, your best defense is social distancing. When that is not possible, a mask will offer SOME mitigation of spread, but certainly not immunity. Eventually there will be a (hopefully effective) vaccine. That's the current state of affairs.

Now, to equate mask wearing with "patriotism" and the sacrifices of WWII is simply absurd, almost a religious fanaticism. There have been dozens of pandemics in the last 2 centuries, and this one is far from the worst, yet never has there been such a drastic response by government, nor such a divisiveness among our citizens. It's amazing how many are watching the daily tally of new cases, even though that is a meaningless statistic. It's amazing how many go to a certain event then feel obligated to post how many were and weren't wearing masks. Some are stupid enough to say something to another person; they should realize that that is inherently dangerous

Everyone needs to take this down a notch, exercise common sense and eventually it will end, just like all other pandemics.
And on what do you base your opinion that masks are not useful? Ever medical person says to wear them.
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And on what do you base your opinion that masks are not useful? Ever medical person says to wear them.
Please point out the phrase in my post that says masks are not useful. Seems like a lot of people need remedial reading today
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Preaching about this everyday means NOTHING. Some are not going to wear a mask.......move on with your life
I felt it was appropriate because people seem to ignore the fact that we are essentially at war. This way of looking at the problem has not been mentioned before from what I can tell.
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Certainly you can't be serious. Are you? You wear it to bed at home? You wear it when driving alone in a car with the windows up? 24/7/365?????

All I can say is Res ipsa loquitur
I took that comment to be tongue in cheek. Actually, the poster was making fun of those who are proponents of masking.
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Wearing a mask protects others ---ONLY IF THE WEARER HAS COVID !
I don't wear it most of the time. Only in stores that ask you to cover before entering.
Most anti-maskers don't wear one because it's a pain in the butt, and they don't have Covid, so there is no reason to "protect" others. I think that it's simple to understand.
If you have a cough going on, then don a mask till it goes away. And isolate yourself as much as reasonably possible. That's the right thing to do. But don't chastise me if my face isn't covered.
Folks need to be made aware of what asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic means. Asymptomatic means "without symptoms" and pre-symptomatic means "before symptoms begin".

Anyone COULD be contagious with Covid and not even be aware they are sick or contagious. This is the reason we are requested to wear masks when we can not maintain social distancing, especially indoors.

We are requested to wear masks to slow the spread of the virus until we can develop herd immunity safely with a vaccine.
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During World War II, Americans were asked to make many sacrifices. They were asked to limit their consumption of meat and processed foods because the soldiers abroad needed them. Sugar rations were half of what people normally consumed. Gasoline was limited to three gallons per week. People were asked to wear warmer clothes so that less fuel was needed to heat their homes and offices. People were asked to take shorter showers. People were even asked to contribute their rubber hoses so they could be converted into tires. These were REAL sacrifices and, thankfully, most Americans did their patriotic duty to help in the war effort. And, although such sacrifices were hard on civilians, they were NOTHING compared to what many men and women sacrificed when the put their very lives on the line to fight the enemy. I doubt that a large percentage of the populace complained that their rights were being taken away. People were true patriots then and they showed it by making sacrifices to help with the war effort instead of merely wrapping themselves in the flag and proclaiming their “rights.”

We are at war again. But this time the enemy is invisible. The enemy doesn’t honor front lines, but sneaks past those who risk their lives every day to fight this war. If the enemy touches you, you become an unwitting assistant in its battle against us. This increases the risk to our friends, families, and our front-line “soldiers,” the people who work in our hospitals and clinics. But, we know how to win this war. It really is quite easy. If we all made the tiniest sacrifice of wearing a mask, we could beat this enemy in no time. Such sacrifices are NOTHING compared to what our parents made to win WW2. So, we now call them “The Greatest Generation.” Sounds pretty good, doesn’t it? Do you think we rate such a moniker? I don’t think so. Because of our defiance in helping with the war effort, we will probably be known in the future as something more like “The Selfish Generation.” Many of us refused to wear a mask because it was our “right” to go uncovered. Really? Oh, the humanity! We greedily hoarded toilet paper, sanitizer, and the PPE that robbed our front-line soldiers of the battle gear they needed to fight the war. We are NOT patriots. We pale in comparison to our parents. We should be ashamed.

Be a REAL patriot. Wear a mask.
Well said. I can't believe the self-delusion and misinterpretation of "freedom" by those who say they are/should be free to choose. Freedom doesn't mean doing whatever you want to do, freedom is doing what you want to do while making sure that you aren't harming others in any way.
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This thread reminds me of that quote by Peter Marshall, ex Senate chaplain


‪"May we think of freedom not as the right to do as we please, but as the opportunity to do what is right.” ‬
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