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Old 07-29-2017, 11:36 AM
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We know these people, we knew the dog.
I know them too and loved that dog Jon Snow. They were very responsible when it came to their dogs. Just Jon Snow was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I worry about my dog and golf carts and cars as he likes to cross the street a lot. And I do not hear some of these electric cars and golf carts approaching.

This is an extremely nice family from my interactions with them over the past three years or so.

They should be careful though as there some rather large coyotes out there as well. They might be able to take down a good sized dog but probably would not be able to take it away.

There seems to be a pack around the Lake Miona area. I do not hear coyotes at night here in Lynnhaven but they are out and about according to people who have seen them here and there in this area.

Beau our chihuahua/terrier often greeted Jon Snow at Doggie Doo Run Run and vice versa. One of the few dogs he ever paid much attention too.

And the visiting kids at the dog park would often pet Jon Snow and then Beau or Beau and then Jon Snow.

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Old 07-30-2017, 08:06 PM
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I know them too and loved that dog Jon Snow. They were very responsible when it came to their dogs. Just Jon Snow was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I worry about my dog and golf carts and cars as he likes to cross the street a lot. And I do not hear some of these electric cars and golf carts approaching.

This is an extremely nice family from my interactions with them over the past three years or so.

They should be careful though as there some rather large coyotes out there as well. They might be able to take down a good sized dog but probably would not be able to take it away.

There seems to be a pack around the Lake Miona area. I do not hear coyotes at night here in Lynnhaven but they are out and about according to people who have seen them here and there in this area.

Beau our chihuahua/terrier often greeted Jon Snow at Doggie Doo Run Run and vice versa. One of the few dogs he ever paid much attention too.

And the visiting kids at the dog park would often pet Jon Snow and then Beau or Beau and then Jon Snow.

In my neck of the woods (MI) coyote are making a dent in the large population of deer. A few months ago if an alert owner not far from my home hadn't gone looking for their adult collie they had let out for the night, the pack that had him surrounded may have done more damage than the ear that the poor dog lost to the pack. A lone coyote will feed on the smaller prey. Larger animals are no match for a pack of coyote. Keep a watch on all furbabies of any size.

Breaks my heart every time I read about another one taken.
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Old 07-30-2017, 08:42 PM
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Maybe it's time to allow us to put up fences for protection!
Coyotes can jump fences in CYVs. Eagles can carry small dogs away. Fences don't necessarily mean safety from predators.

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I have seen one coyote in The Villages. It was pre-dawn crossing Triggerfish in Pennecamp.
I saw a coyote on Churchill Downs Golf Course in back of our house.
Coyotes are out there in all villages, and we should all be cautious.
It's important to walk all pets on leashes.
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Not sure what we can do about the coyotes here in this area. The alligators are here. They get too big and we move them or kill them. Does not seem to be any simple solution.

My father was telling me about his boss who used to hunt them for their hides. Sounds barbaric to me but that was in Nevada. That does not seem to fit in with a retirement community in Florida.

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Not sure what we can do about the coyotes here in this area. The alligators are here. They get too big and we move them or kill them. Does not seem to be any simple solution.

My father was telling me about his boss who used to hunt them for their hides. Sounds barbaric to me but that was in Nevada. That does not seem to fit in with a retirement community in Florida.

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Coyotes may be hunted and/or trapped year around in Florida. However, as I believe I have previously pointed out, there is virtually no place in The Villages where it would be legal to discharge a firearm.

The coyote problem can only be addressed by the Morse family, if they choose to do so, by hiring licensed trappers to work on the problem in the open areas owned by the family.

Only licensed trappers may sell the coyote hides. Apparently there is a market for this.

The coyotes will never all be eliminated. It has been tried in a lot of locations, without success.

Do not let your pets roam free. They can be snatched up in seconds.
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And if your pet is acting out of character in the middle of the night, it's natural to think that he needs to go out to do his business. But it may be that he's acting out of character because he senses a predator outside. Just be sure to leash him and go out there with him, fence or no fence.
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And if your pet is acting out of character in the middle of the night, it's natural to think that he needs to go out to do his business. But it may be that he's acting out of character because he senses a predator outside. Just be sure to leash him and go out there with him, fence or no fence.
Excellent comment.
As Carl in Tampa said "Do not let your pets roam free. They can be snatched up in seconds."
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Good morning,can we set traps for the coyotes????I own a house in pine ridge. we saw one when we came home around midnight about 4 months ago.
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Hello Everyone. Newbie here.

I must admit, this is an issue I never considered when moving here to TV.

I thought my tiny fur babies were fairly safe, as we have one of the few fully fenced backyards in Pine Hills. But now I feel like a total lunatic following them in to the backyard carrying a broomstick as a weapon. 😳
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And if your pet is acting out of character in the middle of the night, it's natural to think that he needs to go out to do his business. But it may be that he's acting out of character because he senses a predator outside. Just be sure to leash him and go out there with him, fence or no fence.
Beau barked at something outside last night around 2:00 AM. Too early for the newspaper delivery guys. We had a clutch of baby rabbits in our section of houses and the coyotes often hunt these.

I never go out when he is barking to see what it is but just make sure the door is locked and I have a weapon nearby.
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https://www.thepetitionsite.com/crea...QaArSjEALw_wcB

We could create a petition to deal with the coyotes and direct it at the Morses.

Unlike the alligators the coyotes are an invasive species for the area of Central Florida. The used to be a Western Species but we killed off most wolves-- their major predator-- and they spread across the US. And I would not recommend bringing in some wolves as they occasionally eat people. Wolf attacks on humans - Wikipedia Coyote attacks on humans - Wikipedia

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Unless I missed something I don't like the fact that a coyote gets blamed for this if the animal in question was not seen. How big was the dog? What about a big owl? Or a bobcat or Florida panther? It is a terrible thing to have happen no matter what, but I think it should be a lesson to everyone to keep your dog on a leash....just don't let them outside.
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Lived in a suburb of. Chicago pop. 75,000. There were a couple if golf courses and a cemetery which were pretty much the only open spaces. There was an occasional fox but no coyotes or bobcats. All of a sudden coyote sightings started to occur, and some pets were victims. The village set traps, tagged them and released them miles away. They found their way back. Anyhow, people got smarter about protecting pets and prevention, and the coyotes got smarter about living with people. That will happen here also.

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Hello Everyone. Newbie here.
I must admit, this is an issue I never considered when moving here to TV.
I thought my tiny fur babies were fairly safe, as we have one of the few fully fenced backyards in Pine Hills. But now I feel like a total lunatic following them in to the backyard carrying a broomstick as a weapon. 😳
Welcome to TOTV.
Don't feel like a lunatic, you are merely keeping a watchful eye over your tiny fur babies.
In the future, I hope that pet owners will learn from these heart-breaking coyote snatchings.
And that all pet owners will do whatever it takes to keep their vulnerable pets safe.
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