[Ooper]

Originally Posted by Kahuna32162

I suggested that chairs be checked out to individuals with a villages ID, and not be first come first grab. As a last resort, restrict access to the chairs or the square until an hour before the show.

One forgets that the squares are for public use. The entertainment is paid for by the vendors and merchants around the square that The Villages residents AND the public support by buying their products. To restrict the public from using all the facilities at the squares would not make these merchants very happy as I'm sure they would lose a large portion of their business. Access to the chairs IS restricted to an hour before the show because they are not brought out until then. Hard to reserve a chair that does not yet exist.

[Kahuna32162]

well, yesterday at 2p, all the chairs were out at LSL. That's approx 3 hours before the entertainment. I have also noticed that the chairs at SS are always out, just stacked up along the back walls.

[jhrc4]

Originally Posted by Ooper

One forgets that the squares are for public use. The entertainment is paid for by the vendors and merchants around the square that The Villages residents AND the public support by buying their products. To restrict the public from using all the facilities at the squares would not make these merchants very happy as I'm sure they would lose a large portion of their business. Access to the chairs IS restricted to an hour before the show because they are not brought out until then. Hard to reserve a chair that does not yet exist.

Look the live Video " Clearly " showed that the cushions were on the chairs and one area roped off. I'm surprised you didn't say " Alleged ".

This is a on going problem. I thought that Community Watch had this under control but it has not. It will end up in Altercations sooner or later. The chairs are there and a bunch of people that are, Ignorant, Selfish, Self Centered, and could care less about others. A good ole fashion Blanket Party would sort this out....Real Quick !

[jhrc4]

Originally Posted by Kahuna32162

well, yesterday at 2p, all the chairs were out at LSL. That's approx 3 hours before the entertainment. I have also noticed that the chairs at SS are always out, just stacked up along the back walls.

I agree with you, individuals who defended this practice are self centered, Ignorant, " Morons ", who obviously got picked on when they were growing up. ZERO MANNERS !

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

No saving chairs is one of the pet peavey items I add to my yearly survey. Just update the signs, no smoking in square and no saving chairs.

I would think you could have a situation of "chair rage" someday...

[ahayward65]

I was at SS about 2 weeks ago when Rocky was playing. I was just appalled at all the seats that were being saved at 230pm. There was 2 long rows of about 8-10 chairs each with a green cord attached thru them all. Many cushions, hats, signs also besides the most ridiculous idea of stuffing a plastic grocery bag in the backside. There were MANY of those. I would say that over half of the space had been reserved. I wanted to take them all off but did not do it. Next time I see this I am going to sit in the chair until they arrive!

[Mudder]

The chairs are out all the time at Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter. People are always sitting out at SS enjoying coffee in morning, etc.... I think maybe at Brownwood they are put out at 4:30.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by ahayward65;84***9

I was at SS about 2 weeks ago when Rocky was playing. I was just appalled at all the seats that were being saved at 230pm. There was 2 long rows of about 8-10 chairs each with a green cord attached thru them all. Many cushions, hats, signs also besides the most ridiculous idea of stuffing a plastic grocery bag in the backside. There were MANY of those. I would say that over half of the space had been reserved. I wanted to take them all off but did not do it. Next time I see this I am going to sit in the chair until they arrive!

I wish you had! Better than sitting in the chair until they arrive and having an altercation ensue, just unhook whatever's holding them together and help yourself to a chair. I would suggest putting it in another spot, though.

[applesoffh]

My husband and I just stopped going to the squares at night. For the "friendliest hometown" there are some mighty big attitudes and lousy manners out there, and these are not younger people from outside...they are Villagers.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by applesoffh

My husband and I just stopped going to the squares at night. For the "friendliest hometown" there are some mighty big attitudes and lousy manners out there, and these are not younger people from outside...they are Villagers.

Misplaced and unearned sense of entitlement.

[Ooper]

Originally Posted by jhrc4

Look the live Video " Clearly " showed that the cushions were on the chairs and one area roped off. I'm surprised you didn't say " Alleged ".

I'm with you folks. I think saving chairs IS self centered and ignorant. But I don't understand where you want me to insert the word "alleged". I work at LSL as a vendor on Tues and Thurs evenings. I get there to set up at 3:30. I'm sorry but the chairs everybody is talking about don't get there till 4 pm when the maintenance staff delivers them on 4-wheelers and trailers. There are no chairs set up when I get there. The roped off area is to keep a space on the dance floor so the people don't set their chairs up there, usually in the rear of the stage, leaving room for more dancers.

[onslowe]

I agree with Indy. It's a social cancer. "If you snooze, you lose" attitude taken to extremes of uncivil behavior.

Unless a dedicated group of Villagers actually got together and arrived at a set time at the Squares and as a group removed these arrogant items and stayed there as a group, nothing is going to happen here. We're preaching to the choir, folks.

Now, if somehow before the build out, the powers that be find evidence of TV'ers telling outsiders (prospective buyers) of the unchecked unfriendliness and rudeness of Florida's friendliest townspeople maybe a real effort will be made to end this piggish selfishness.

The population is too big now for these venues to continue this way. The merchants don't care and won't themselves stop the seat saving. Didn't this come up several months ago? Wasn't it then put to bed by the events staff removing the attempted 'seat saving items' and ropes etc? What happened? Did they just stop?

[gomoho]

Phew - glad I'm just in it for the golf.

[jhrc4]

Originally Posted by Ooper

I'm with you folks. I think saving chairs IS self centered and ignorant. But I don't understand where you want me to insert the word "alleged". I work at LSL as a vendor on Tues and Thurs evenings. I get there to set up at 3:30. I'm sorry but the chairs everybody is talking about don't get there till 4 pm when the maintenance staff delivers them on 4-wheelers and trailers. There are no chairs set up when I get there. The roped off area is to keep a space on the dance floor so the people don't set their chairs up there, usually in the rear of the stage, leaving room for more dancers.

I said " Alleged " simply because when someone is or a group is " Accused " here in the USA we have to be ...." Innocent " until " Proven " Guilty even though the camera shows everything is there the Judge say's how do you plead " Not Guilty " hence " Alleged ". This chair saving crap is totally out of control especially at Spanish Springs. Sumter is much more shall I say Civilized. A Blanket Party as I mentioned would sort this out real quick !!

[jhrc4]

Originally Posted by onslowe

I agree with Indy. It's a social cancer. "If you snooze, you lose" attitude taken to extremes of uncivil behavior.

Unless a dedicated group of Villagers actually got together and arrived at a set time at the Squares and as a group removed these arrogant items and stayed there as a group, nothing is going to happen here. We're preaching to the choir, folks.

Now, if somehow before the build out, the powers that be find evidence of TV'ers telling outsiders (prospective buyers) of the unchecked unfriendliness and rudeness of Florida's friendliest townspeople maybe a real effort will be made to end this piggish selfishness.

The population is too big now for these venues to continue this way. The merchants don't care and won't themselves stop the seat saving. Didn't this come up several months ago? Wasn't it then put to bed by the events staff removing the attempted 'seat saving items' and ropes etc? What happened? Did they just stop?

I agree with this response sometimes, ya learn " It's the easy way "... then.. hey ... unfortunately ya learn " The hard way " time to take action folks . I'm In.. Ba Bye Cushions, Ropes, La de Da , The Honeymoon is OVER !!!