[I'm Popeye!]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

There's no subway down here - in fact mass transit is pretty much a joke in this and many other states. Virtually or literally non-existent. I mean we can't even get a functional tram in the Villages, where the older you are, the less likely you're capable of driving, the more you rely on "someone other than yourself" to get you around.

But we have plenty of deaths, and accidents, and injuries. The emergency services folks earn their pay, for sure. Is that because of New Yorkers?

Nope. It's because of old people. Should we ban old people, since they're costing everyone so much money and causing so many accidents and death and injury? I dunno - I don't mind them so much. Maybe New Yorkers aren't the problem though. Maybe it's old people.

Please read more carefully, before posting your outrageous point of view.
I wrote: "They also push people onto oncoming trains during the warmer months in NY". Nothing about Florida or old people!

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Agreed. I'm from Connecticut, spent a lot of time in NYC, had life-long friends in Rockville Center, best friend post-college lived in Warwick. I know what my friends thought about specific issues, but politics - who was running for what, who we were voting for - never came up in conversation. None of us had bumper stickers on our cars or flags of our preferred candidates on our flagpoles or signs in our windows or even on our lawns. Some folks did, but that was just a "Vote For [insert name here] for Mayor" and there was NEVER a sign disparaging the candidate they weren't voting for. Ever. Such insanity was completely unheard of. You SUPPORTED your person. You never insulted the other guy.

If you have to insult the other guy, in order for your person to win, then YOU - personally - lost. You lost your integrity, your humanity, and the only thing you had left was your very myopic community of haters. And so - we just didn't ever do that. And we grew up believing this.

So when I moved to the Villages I never checked to see what party people belonged to, when I was looking for a home. The thought never occurred to me to check. I grew up in an incredibly diverse part of the country. We had our tensions, and there were small pockets of areas that one demographic would not feel safe living in. Even then - it had nothing to do with politics. Racial problems, LGBTQ+ issues, womens' reproductive health - none of these had anything to do with politics, in my neck of the woods. Politics wasn't the driving force of them or the reason there was any division. When people fought, no one was asked to answer the question "what political party are you" before they clobbered each other in an alley. No one gave a crap.

Now, politics seems to be the driving force of every single subject. If someone cares about their autistic child getting a decent education, it's a political thing. If someone is upset that they were mugged on a city street, it's the elected official's fault. If someone has a problem with the idea that a person with a ***** is wearing lipstick and a push-up bra, it's political.

It's all rather ridiculous and trust me - as someone from the Greater New York area - if politics were the reason people moved to Florida, there wouldn't be many northerners coming here at all.

The "problems" in NY and those other areas area result of the politicians and policies selected by the voters, those choices impact the economy and quality of life ,, do stupid tricks,, get dumb prizes

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Agreed. I'm from Connecticut, spent a lot of time in NYC, had life-long friends in Rockville Center, best friend post-college lived in Warwick. I know what my friends thought about specific issues, but politics - who was running for what, who we were voting for - never came up in conversation. None of us had bumper stickers on our cars or flags of our preferred candidates on our flagpoles or signs in our windows or even on our lawns. Some folks did, but that was just a "Vote For [insert name here] for Mayor" and there was NEVER a sign disparaging the candidate they weren't voting for. Ever. Such insanity was completely unheard of. You SUPPORTED your person. You never insulted the other guy.

If you have to insult the other guy, in order for your person to win, then YOU - personally - lost. You lost your integrity, your humanity, and the only thing you had left was your very myopic community of haters. And so - we just didn't ever do that. And we grew up believing this.

So when I moved to the Villages I never checked to see what party people belonged to, when I was looking for a home. The thought never occurred to me to check. I grew up in an incredibly diverse part of the country. We had our tensions, and there were small pockets of areas that one demographic would not feel safe living in. Even then - it had nothing to do with politics. Racial problems, LGBTQ+ issues, womens' reproductive health - none of these had anything to do with politics, in my neck of the woods. Politics wasn't the driving force of them or the reason there was any division. When people fought, no one was asked to answer the question "what political party are you" before they clobbered each other in an alley. No one gave a crap.

Now, politics seems to be the driving force of every single subject. If someone cares about their autistic child getting a decent education, it's a political thing. If someone is upset that they were mugged on a city street, it's the elected official's fault. If someone has a problem with the idea that a person with a ***** is wearing lipstick and a push-up bra, it's political.

It's all rather ridiculous and trust me - as someone from the Greater New York area - if politics were the reason people moved to Florida, there wouldn't be many northerners coming here at all.

The "problems" in NY and those other areas area result of the politicians and policies selected by the voters, those choices impact the economy and quality of life ,, do stupid tricks,, get dumb prizes, I don't think people not wanting to follow the lead of demonstrated mistakes unreasonable, or insulting to question the voter who put the politician in office

[Dr.Butler]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Crime in NYC is a factor as well. Major crime continues to surge in NYC, up 36% this year: new police data

Careful
"Florida, USA has crime index above the national average and New York, USA has crime index below the national average"
"Overall, crime rates in the most violent cities in Florida are 2.6 times higher than the national average."

Subjectively, we live in a pretty safe area, But the state itself is not really safe crime wise. I can think of plenty of areas you wouldn't want to be in during the evening here in Florida.

[Dr.Butler]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Even migrants are leaving NYC, going to Canada!

Migrants flee NYC for Canada after ‘drugs,’ ‘homeless people’ make life unbearable: report | Fox News

Please don't use Faux News as a source....

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Dr.Butler

Please don't use Faux News as a source....

Everybody Drink!

How 'bout you post a better source?

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Dr.Butler

Careful
"Florida, USA has crime index above the national average and New York, USA has crime index below the national average"
"Overall, crime rates in the most violent cities in Florida are 2.6 times higher than the national average."

Subjectively, we live in a pretty safe area, But the state itself is not really safe crime wise. I can think of plenty of areas you wouldn't want to be in during the evening here in Florida.

My citation relates to crime in New York City, not New York State. I was addressing the attractiveness of moving to The Villages, a relatively safe place to escape crime in New York City.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Dr.Butler

Please don't use Faux News as a source....

I use Fox News because it presents the facts. The main stream media mostly generates fake news and propaganda.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I use Fox News because it presents the facts. The main stream media mostly generates fake news and propaganda.

I don't fool myself into thinking FOX News doesn't have it's own bias. Tucker, Hannity, etc are most certainly biased...

But as far as STRAIGHT news goes, to can't beat Brett Baier...

CNN doesn't have anyone who can compare, nor does MSNBC... It's not even close...

[sdifede313@aol.com]

Wow! This is a big conversation. Just to add my two cents, I’d like to say that the tide is beginning to turn, politically at least. Florida has a lot to love, it’s a great place to retire to or to add a vacation home. NY has some many conveniences, it’s a hard place to leave behind. I hope to have a second home soon down south, it sure exactly where, I know it’s not Boca, or Tampa. What makes TV such a great place? Please share, I’d love to hear from you.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by sdifede313@aol.com

Wow! This is a big conversation. Just to add my two cents, I’d like to say that the tide is beginning to turn, politically at least. Florida has a lot to love, it’s a great place to retire to or to add a vacation home. NY has some many conveniences, it’s a hard place to leave behind. I hope to have a second home soon down south, it sure exactly where, I know it’s not Boca, or Tampa. What makes TV such a great place? Please share, I’d love to hear from you.

Why don't you start a thread titled "What makes The Villages such a great place? I betcha you'd get many, many informative responses.

[MickeyStevens]

Originally Posted by sandy and ed

but hopefully they do not destroy the wonderful “attitude” of florida. Come on down but leave your northern cynicism, etc. There. Florida ain’t broke so don’t try to fix it to suit a northern lifestyle you are leaving

ditto!!!!