What changes would you make at The Market at Sawgrass Grove?

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Which video was that? I didn't hear any mention of parking in 115.
My bad…..it was not in the video but rather in his answer to some questions that were asked when he posted the link to #115 on TOTV. I think it’s post #29;

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As suggested, scale it.

In and around Sawgrass, North side of Meggison.........3,000 feet x 4,000 feet.
Plenty of room.

As an example, Brownwood is 2,000 feet x 3,000 feet
(44 to 44a and BVista to Powell)
You're ignoring the "obvious" amount of wetlands in that area. And the golf course...

Also, very close to Brownwood...
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:34 AM
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You're ignoring the "obvious" amount of wetlands in that area. And the golf course...

Also, very close to Brownwood...
Dude.................just stop it.

Your statement, "That side of the turnpike just didn't have enough land (where they built Sawgrass) to put in a full size town square. "

There was enough land.
I'm excluding the wetlands.
If they wanted a full size town square...............there was enough land.
Town Squares and Sawgrass are planned before housing, rec centers, putt-putt.
The golf course is across the street..............I said on the North side.

If you really care...........measure it..................or are you just arguing.

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The butcher pulled out of the space. It is the same one as in Plant Street Market in Winter Garden, wife talked to them last week when she was at the Farmers Market, they said it is a no go for them.....
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The butcher pulled out of the space. It is the same one as in Plant Street Market in Winter Garden, wife talked to them last week when she was at the Farmers Market, they said it is a no go for them.....
The butcher that is going in there also owns the Fish and Burger carryouts next to his butcher shop. His equipment and coolers are already in place so I'm sure the lease was signed beforehand and he won't be breaking the lease as it would be very costly for him. I might add that the butcher shop will be a success in that area as will just about anything else that goes in there, residents will pay for the convenience of it.
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I would include a brand-name restaurant. I would make an entrance on both sides. Instead of using the golf store as an entrance. Have reasonable prices for food. Complete the square in a timely manner. Relocate some of the restaurants. There is a lot of work that can be done to that place to make it work more efficiently.
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Dude.................just stop it.

Your statement, "That side of the turnpike just didn't have enough land (where they built Sawgrass) to put in a full size town square. "

There was enough land.
I'm excluding the wetlands.
If they wanted a full size town square...............there was enough land.
Town Squares and Sawgrass are planned before housing, rec centers, putt-putt.
The golf course is across the street..............I said on the North side.

If you really care...........measure it..................or are you just arguing.

You are correct. Sawgrass was planned long ago. NOT TO BE A TOWN SQUARE...

It was planned to be a twist on a Country Club. Hence, the pro shop within the market. Yes, the market, NOT the town square...

The new town square was planned to be across the new Bexley bridge, in Eastport. Plenty close to all points east of the turnpike and not too close to Brownwood... Also serving those to the north (Marsh Bend, Fenney, etc) and points to be built farther south...

Putting one in both places would be contrary to how they've placed them in the past. SS is far enough from Lake Sumter, which is far enough from Brownwood. Those between them have an easy ride to any of them, and are not too far from them either...

I'm in Osceola Hills (south, near 44). I'm closest to Brownwood (which is still 15-20 minutes and a half hour to Lake Sumter). SS is waaay too far (for me) to go by golf cart on a regular basis. The new Town square in Eastport will be 15-20 minutes from just about anywhere east/north of the Turnpike...

There is a method to their madness... Just because YOU insist there is room for a town square where YOU want it to be doesn't mean it is the right place for it to be...

So dude, you can stop "just arguing" any time...
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There is a method to their madness... Just because YOU insist there is room for a town square where YOU want it to be doesn't mean it is the right place for it to be...

So dude, you can stop "just arguing" any time...
You try so hard to change the subject, throw crap on the wall and see if anything sticks.

I'm not insisting there is room, I'm just correcting your false statement that there was no room.
I don't care if Sawgrass is a Town Square or not..............that's not the topic.

I don't care about the next town square...................that's not the topic.

The topic is, you stated: "That side of the turnpike just didn't have enough land (where they built Sawgrass) to put in a full size town square. " And you are wrong.

I'm not arguing...............just highlighting your errors, which is quite fun and people are laughing.

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Would you two just quit your 'whose is bigger' contest. Really, nobody cares.
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Would you two just quit your 'whose is bigger' contest. Really, nobody cares.
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1) Also serving those to the north (Marsh Bend, Fenney, etc)…

2) Putting one in both places would be contrary to how they've placed them in the past. SS is far enough from Lake Sumter, which is far enough from Brownwood.
Holly crap, statement number 1 completely blows my mind. Serving those to the north would be the greater Mulbury/Lopez and Historic District areas. The Marsh Bend/Fenney area is over an hour plus golf cart ride from those areas going due south at 20 MPH with no slow downs. The areas mentioned are the polar opposite of the north within the Villages????

Statement number two is also a head scratcher, we live between SS and LSL, 7 minutes to SS and 9 minutes to LSL, so placement would not be contrary to historic standards. Brownwood on the other hand is kind of off the beaten path, pretty far south from LSL, a solid half hour by golf cart with no slow downs.
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