[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Betting on a captive audience like Disney. Limited options golf cart accessible down there. Customers will determine their success or not.

So, what is not golf cart accessible??? When’s the last time you were south of 44?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Traveling lady

You state that you have not been there yet. It’s very hard to give an opinion about something if you have not seen it personally. I have been there. I will never go back again it was a complete waste of time. Unlike the other squares it does not have a bunch of small shops that you can meander in and out of. It is just an oversized food court

It's not a town square, you can't make that comparison.

[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Seems like there is not nearly the amount of land at Sawgrass that there is in the town squares. There isn't even enough parking at Sawgrass. We went there once and will not be going back.

You should watch Don Wiley’s latest video that directly refutes those suppositions.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by John Mayes

You should watch Don Wiley’s latest video that directly refutes those suppositions.

Having been there, the amount of parking (which is shared with the rec center and golf course) is much much smaller than any town square...

That side of the turnpike just didn't have enough land (where they built Sawgrass) to put in a full size town square. From Chitty Chatty down to St Catherine is a narrow swath of land, compared to west/south of the turnpike... Whomever said it was a new twist on a "Country Club" for the golf course (IMHO) is much more "on point"...

Now, when they continue development farther south, the tract of land widens and they may have land for another real town square, but it seems that they will be building the next one across the Bexley Bridge in Eastport...

That will be closer for many than Brownwood...

[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Having been there, the amount of parking (which is shared with the rec center and golf course) is much much smaller than any town square...

That side of the turnpike just didn't have enough land (where they built Sawgrass) to put in a full size town square. From Chitty Chatty down to St Catherine is a narrow swath of land, compared to west/south of the turnpike... Whomever said it was a new twist on a "Country Club" for the golf course (IMHO) is much more "on point"...

Now, when they continue development farther south, the tract of land widens and they may have land for another real town square, but it seems that they will be building the next one across the Bexley Bridge in Eastport...

That will be closer for many than Brownwood...

You’re correct, the 4th square will be in Eastport. Announced several months ago. Sawgrass was never planned as a square.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

That side of the turnpike just didn't have enough land (where they built Sawgrass) to put in a full size town square. .

False.

Scale it out............there is plenty of land including and around Sawgrass to have a full size town square IF the developer wanted to have one in that location.

[Papa_lecki]

Regarding parking, the county/township building code dictates how many parking spots for a place. I.e. how many per tennis court being built, how many per square footage of building, etc.
it makes sense there’s less parking than LSL, brownwood…. There’s almost no retail space.
For example, a driving range requires one spot per hitting bay.
A restaurant requires 1 per 125 sq. ft. of gross leasable area, or 1 per 2.5 seats, whichever is greater, plus stacking lane requirements (Do the math on that for LSL).


Here’s the code - search for parking
Municode Library

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by John Mayes

You should watch Don Wiley’s latest video that directly refutes those suppositions.

Which video was that? I didn't hear any mention of parking in 115.

[Granville75]

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[Keefelane66]

When it fails turn it into a church it will probably make more money.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

False.

Scale it out............there is plenty of land including and around Sawgrass to have a full size town square IF the developer wanted to have one in that location.

I disagree...

It would serve a much smaller community since they would have to use land that was used for housing...

No room from Chitty Chatty to St Cathrine. Linden and Hawkins has a ton of wetlands. Cason Hammock has the golf course.

Where would you suggest they put it?

Maybe, it they used ALL of St Catherine, they could squeeze one in...

[Timothyimitchell]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Wonder if the popular bands will play at Sawgrass. Johnny Wild and Rocky come to mind. Is there room for those type of crowds?

They will have it. It may be limited, such as weekends, but it'll happen. Watch.

[nick demis]

Survey what the locals would like, gut it and start over.

[Sensei]

No COINS? Makes some folks upset..."no change, stealin' my money!" Clever vendors would set EVERY PRICE a whole dollar price which includes tax. No more "stealin' ".
Not impressed with the noisey venue either.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I disagree.....

As suggested, scale it.

In and around Sawgrass, North side of Meggison.........3,000 feet x 4,000 feet.
Plenty of room.

As an example, Brownwood is 2,000 feet x 3,000 feet
(44 to 44a and BVista to Powell)