[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by orangeblossombaby

some people think it's fun to trick an animal into hooking their mouth around a razor-sharp barb that rips at their lips the more they try to pull away, and then show off what they've caught by dangling it over their head, while the animal is unable to breathe and slowly starts to suffocate. And then they say "just kidding!" and toss the animal back into the water.

The people who like doing that, are the ones who will defend the barbarism. Sort of like hunting, when you aren't actually trying to get your dinner. You just want to kill stuff.

Hunting for food is another matter entirely. Hunting for the fun of it, or for "trophies" is, and will always be, barbaric.

i don't like any needless injuring of animals either . If a space alien hooked you by your mouth and dangled you around then discarded you would anyone see sport or humor in it? I believe in karma.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by crash

Most of us who catch and release use barbless hooks it does not kill the fish. If we didn’t release them how many fish would be left in the ponds few to none.

If you didn't go fishing except to catch your dinner, how many fish would need to be stocked in those ponds in the first place.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Some people think it's fun to trick an animal into hooking their mouth around a razor-sharp barb that rips at their lips the more they try to pull away, and then show off what they've caught by dangling it over their head, while the animal is unable to breathe and slowly starts to suffocate. And then they say "just kidding!" and toss the animal back into the water.

The people who like doing that, are the ones who will defend the barbarism. Sort of like hunting, when you aren't actually trying to get your dinner. You just want to kill stuff.

Hunting for food is another matter entirely. Hunting for the fun of it, or for "trophies" is, and will always be, barbaric.

"toss the fish back".....A lot of people don't know that if a fish is "TOSSED back" it breaks the fish's internal organs and it dies in a day or two. The proper way is to gently place the fish in the water and allow it to swim away. That should be explained on ALL fishing licenses, but I doubt that !

[Beats]

Originally Posted by mraines

My understanding is that you cannot keep the fish that you catch so what is the point?

The point is to enjoy nature and see if you can trick one of those bass to hit your lure. No need to keep or eat them but just enjoy the challenger.
Artificial worms work very well slow dragged along the bottom or for a novice try a spinnerbait.

[Beats]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

"toss the fish back".....A lot of people don't know that if a fish is "TOSSED back" it breaks the fish's internal organs and it dies in a day or two. The proper way is to gently place the fish in the water and allow it to swim away. That should be explained on ALL fishing licenses, but I doubt that !

You truly have no idea what you are talking about! I have caught a bass and have a way to mark it without hurting it and have caught that same fish months later. Anything else that you mention is pure fabrication and a bias towards fisherman that just enjoy the sport of it.
Please keep your nonsense to yourself and your self serving mission to ruin it for everyone else.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Beats

You truly have no idea what you are talking about! I have caught a bass and have a way to mark it without hurting it and have caught that same fish months later. Anything else that you mention is pure fabrication and a bias towards fisherman that just enjoy the sport of it.
Please keep your nonsense to yourself and your self serving mission to ruin it for everyone else.

Wow! Please don't take it personal. I just stated what was written in an outdoor magazine that I read a long time ago. The magazine was the expert that I was just quoting. I will try to research the issue. Also, I imagine the HEIGHT that the fish is thrown to .....is also a factor. And ONE marked fish is NOT a rigorous experiment. I will believe the magazine article until PROVEN otherwise. P.S. I have nothing against fishing. It is a wonderful way to relax and be in the outdoors.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Wow! Please don't take it personal. I just stated what was written in an outdoor magazine that I read a long time ago. The magazine was the expert that I was just quoting. I will try to research the issue. Also, I imagine the HEIGHT that the fish is thrown to .....is also a factor. And ONE marked fish is NOT a rigorous experiment. I will believe the magazine article until PROVEN otherwise. P.S. I have nothing against fishing. It is a wonderful way to relax and be in the outdoors.

Just looked it up. Yes. Throwing a fish back in can cause high impact trauma - the higher the more trauma.

[Bwanajim]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Some people think it's fun to trick an animal into hooking their mouth around a razor-sharp barb that rips at their lips the more they try to pull away, and then show off what they've caught by dangling it over their head, while the animal is unable to breathe and slowly starts to suffocate. And then they say "just kidding!" and toss the animal back into the water.

The people who like doing that, are the ones who will defend the barbarism. Sort of like hunting, when you aren't actually trying to get your dinner. You just want to kill stuff.

Hunting for food is another matter entirely. Hunting for the fun of it, or for "trophies" is, and will always be, barbaric.

If you ever been to Africa, you would understand. If Americans don't spend $50 million a year there to hunt and feed the people they cooperate with the poachers. Everything I've hunted there gets eaten 100% by the locals after I take what I can for camp.
I shot a 4000 pound hippo in Zimbabwe. Within 15 minutes 30 or 40 people came running out of the bush singing and dancing with axes and machetes. They were so happy. We took pictures and took some meat for camp and then they went in there with axes and machetes.
I sat in my truck for about an hour after I took some video and then turned to my guide and asked what will this look like tomorrow?
He laughed and said turn around. The only thing on the ground was blood they took EVERYTHING! Even National Geographic says properly managed Hunting in Africa is necessary.
Please look into it before you make judgmental decisions on something you're not really informed about. thank you.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Bwanajim

If you ever been to Africa, you would understand. If Americans don't spend $50 million a year there to hunt and feed the people they cooperate with the poachers. Everything I've hunted there gets eaten 100% by the locals after I take what I can for camp.
I shot a 4000 pound hippo in Zimbabwe. Within 15 minutes 30 or 40 people came running out of the bush singing and dancing with axes and machetes. They were so happy. We took pictures and took some meat for camp and then they went in there with axes and machetes.
I sat in my truck for about an hour after I took some video and then turned to my guide and asked what will this look like tomorrow?
He laughed and said turn around. The only thing on the ground was blood they took EVERYTHING! Even National Geographic says properly managed Hunting in Africa is necessary.
Please look into it before you make judgmental decisions on something you're not really informed about. thank you.

So you justify killing a hippo because - just by happenstance - people showed up to take the meat. Not because you were hunting specifically to feed anyone.

If you had gone out with those people to capture and kill their food - that's killing for food. But that's not what you did. You went to kill a hippo because you wanted to kill one. I'm judging.