[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JoMar

It's called acceptable collateral damage. The goal is to make sure the economy survives, make sure people come here and buy houses, that the business's in the squares have people attend so they can sell their stuff. If people get sick, or if people die it is considered collateral damage to achieve the goal and the propaganda is spewed to make it seem like it's a good thing. We used that model in the Vietnam war. There is no financial downside for opening squares or anything else until if it gets too bad that the local government is forced to do something and I don't think Sumter County has the desire to do anything. The businesses have never had a desire to do anything that wasn't mandated and the population has never had a desire to do anything if it interfered with their personal selfish agendas. The major health organizations in the world are in agreement, the major hospitals and research centers in US are in agreement that 1) there is no cure and stopping the virus won't happen until there is a vaccine and 2) while treatment has improved and they are keeping people alive, the long term effects of those with or without symptoms are unknown and 3) emerging studies that by contracting the virus, with or without symptoms, can decrease life expectancy by up to 10 years or more especially in the black and latino populations. It is comforting to know that those that are supporting the opening and selfishly want their life to return to normal have more knowledge then some of the best medical minds in the world.

Great post, well written. Kudos!

[Pettys1]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

So, entertainment at the town squares were closed when the pandemic was under much better control than it currently is. Fast forward, the pandemic numbers have never been worse, and a massive influx of potential Covid spreaders are migrating south. Then the seasonal influx of high risk children and grandchildren visitors will follow. People from all over the country will be flying to Florida and converging on the 55 plus community that has been relatively safe during the slow season, where the older and more vulnerable full time residents generally take appropriate precautions. Despite this, starting next week the town squares will go back to business as usual, like the pandemic doesn’t even exist, WTF?

Could there possibly be a worse time to decide to open everything back up? I get that the powers that be need to sell all the houses they are cranking out, and it’s hard to sell houses without being able to showcase the Villages experience. But this could backfire in a big way if the Villages Covid numbers spike, which they most likely will. Not only that, but all the new houses they are trying to sell will have to compete with all the new pre-owned homes that will go on the market vacated by unfortunate Covid victims.

OK, all the Covid deniers, let me have it, I can deal with it.

If your that considered then stay home. Order on line get delivery service.. People just want to live there lives. The numbers are fudged it's been proven... So just be cautious for yourself. Wear a mask,gloves an your ok... 95% of the people are wearing mask an they say the numbers are climbing? People you really need to do your own research not just CDC or Media we know how accurate they are

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Advogado

North Dakota just became the 35th state to implement a state-wide mask mandate. Masks will become mandatory here, sooner or later. It is just a question of whether thousands of Floridians will unnecessarily die before our politicians (either state or county) muster the political courage to do the right thing..

True....that!

[Pettys1]

Originally Posted by JoMar

It's called acceptable collateral damage. The goal is to make sure the economy survives, make sure people come here and buy houses, that the business's in the squares have people attend so they can sell their stuff. If people get sick, or if people die it is considered collateral damage to achieve the goal and the propaganda is spewed to make it seem like it's a good thing. We used that model in the Vietnam war. There is no financial downside for opening squares or anything else until if it gets too bad that the local government is forced to do something and I don't think Sumter County has the desire to do anything. The businesses have never had a desire to do anything that wasn't mandated and the population has never had a desire to do anything if it interfered with their personal selfish agendas. The major health organizations in the world are in agreement, the major hospitals and research centers in US are in agreement that 1) there is no cure and stopping the virus won't happen until there is a vaccine and 2) while treatment has improved and they are keeping people alive, the long term effects of those with or without symptoms are unknown and 3) emerging studies that by contracting the virus, with or without symptoms, can decrease life expectancy by up to 10 years or more especially in the black and latino populations. It is comforting to know that those that are supporting the opening and selfishly want their life to return to normal have more knowledge then some of the best medical minds in the world.

No it's called people have bills to pay.. Just because you may be able to afford to not work an pay your bills MOST of Americans have to work... You've got Flu season now so of course numbers or got to go up.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pettys1

No it's called people have bills to pay.. Just because you may be able to afford to not work an pay your bills MOST of Americans have to work... You've got Flu season now so of course numbers or got to go up.

"numbers or got to go up". Must be some kind of code? America....we are #30 at all quality of life issues! Yeah!

[Brynnie]

Originally Posted by banjobob

I agree with your comment , those with their hair on fire about Covid should do everything possible to protect themselves. I am in good health, thank God and am going to enjoy life.

Why the derogatory words directed to people who are cautious and need to protect themselves? Snarky phrases like “cower in their homes” and “those with their hair on fire” say more about the people who use them than the people they’re mocking. Those who are healthy and plan to go out and “enjoy themselves” obviously have no clue that if they get the virus and are asymptomatic, they could spread it to others when they go shopping, to a restaurant, or wherever. We are all responsible for each other, regardless of what selfish people may think.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

The Florida strategy appears to be herd immunity. A White House official said a couple of weeks ago “we can’t control the virus” and Florida powers-that-be might feel the same way. Just my take.

They feel however their chief orders them to feel.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Blackmagic

Why open the town squares ?
The treatments are more effective and the mortality rate is down from those who contracted it. As Americans we have civil liberties that allow us to make decisions on risk and reward. If you are at risk stay home and don’t infringe on others who have very low risk.

You mean:

if you are at risk of infecting other people, stay at home and don't infringe on others who prefer to be healthy.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by nick demis

Do what you want. Don't dictate what I should do.

What I want, is to be out and about, as I feel like it, however I want, with or without a mask, and not run into you.

That's what I want. In order for me to "do what I want," I'll need YOUR cooperation. If you're not willing to cooperate, then I won't get what I want, and your suggestion to "do what you want" is an empty, hollow, meaningless statement.

So, will you walk the talk? Or is it just lip service and you don't really mean it?

[tophcfa]

Well, one of the things I have learned during this pandemic is that it often shows people’s true colors. Many folks are very concerned about the well being of other people, and are more than willing to make personal sacrifices for the greater good of fellow human beings even if it causes them some inconvenience. Other folks are selfish, insensitive, self absorbed *&$#@‘s who obviously don’t get the long term big picture and are only concerned with their short term personal agendas. I will forever remember which side of the fence many people have chosen.

[MaxCat]

You are thinking “health and safety” and logic — the squares opened because our governor is thinking economy and moved FL into fully open for business some months ago . . . So here we are. Sadly, our government leaders don’t seem to be able to offer decent guidance on how to stay open AND operate safely while in a pandemic — which at its core is the non-political act of wearing a mask — something we all learned back in high school health class that a mask is an effective means for curbing the spread of respiratory infections. But fast forward to today and it has become a “my rights” issue. Quite sad. Also learned in sixth grade was that one’s rights only extend so far as they don’t trample the rights of someone else. That, sadly, seems forgotten too.

[TimeForChange]

You nailed it! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

[Jpk180]

Agreed

[Rwirish]

Spot on.

[DrBrutyle109]

Stay home. I’ll go out