[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by kanoa1kale2

Just a basic understanding is needed of the economic vs need of quarantine. This country cannot survive another economic shutdown. We, in the Villages, have a bubble oriented view of the situation. Many are much older and have many comorbidities. Those people should definitely stay secluded and safe. Since we rely on retirement income, we aren't really affected much by the shutdown, other than the obvious isolation and lack of activities. However, perhaps we need to go talk to our "essential" workers who are asked to place their health on the line to provide us with our day to day needs. Are we willing to share our income to those laid off, with children and mortgages or rent to help them survive? The shutdown limited medical operations for "non-essential" surgeries or elective operations. Medical procedures that could have diagnosed deadly diseases earlier were bypassed in order to satisfy the lockdown. Covid has a 99% recovery rate for most people. If you are susceptible, stay home. Don't go running around looking for problems and trying to impress your dangerous comorbidities onto the rest of us. Stay home, take advantage of the many online order and delivery systems available to remain safe. Always remember, if you do this, you will not encounter those who are out and they become no danger to you. The vaccine is about six months out according to most "experts" guesses. The U.S. population is approx. 328 million, the covid cases are approx 11 million, giving us 317 million future targets for the virus. We are NOT going to control it anymore than we control other annual illnesses like the flu each year. We minimize it's affect as best we can and move on with our lives and continually search for better vaccines and support procedures for those that contract it.

I don't agree with everything, but it WAS really well written.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

In reality , you anti maskers and risk takers are putting the healthcare workers at risk and other people in your community and most likely looking for attention . When there are no more ventilators for you or a shortage of doctors or nurses , don’t complain about it . As you say , “live your life “ without being able to breath and don’t complain about it , Sadly . You are a healthcare workers worst nightmare. No the squares should not reopen right now . The country just saw its highest one day new cases number of Covid 19 , 152,000 in a day . At that rate it means every 10 days 1 million 520 thousand people will have contracted Covid 19 . In 100 days a 3rd of the country could contract the virus . That’s pretty serious numbers all because people want to live their life and not take precautions like the smart people who do . You can’t blame the President for this . Thank you for the people who are taking precautions and sacrificing and staying home. God speed . We can fight and stop this .

I blame him. If it weren't for his anti mask and anti social distancing stance, he would have EASILY won this election. It is on him. He could have had another four years in the WH and he screwed it up all by himself.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Dayeight99

Stay home.

NO!!I'm not going to stay home. I want to be a member of society who supports our restaurants, big box stores, small business, fitness centers, gas stations, retail stores, movie theaters (when ever they open up), coffee shops, etc, etc, etc. I'm doing my part to allow the economy to recover, keep the economy healthy and eventually thrive. That is what I'm doing and I do it with a mask on indoors and I keep my distance from others at all times. No reason for anyone to not remain employed and support their families if people adhere to the CDC guidelines.

American cities which are having spikes due to folks who are "Living their lives" are beginning to have shut downs and impose curfews. THAT is what happens when people "Live their lives". Do you understand why that is happening?

We can continue to "live our lives" as long as we wear masks and remain diligent about keeping our distance from others. That means no shoulder to shoulder proximity to others you do not know. The squares are a perfect example of that. I'm staying away from the squares but, NO, I will not stay home.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by nick demis

Do what you want. Don't dictate what I should do.

It is people like you who have fueled this pandemic. Thank you. NOT!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by donassaid

No one is denying Covid, just the insane paranoia associated with it. People screamed about the Trump rally and how, 2 weeks later there would be this massive outbreak of Covid. Didn't happen although I am sure some were hoping for it. Some are calling for a mask mandate and another complete lockdown all for a virus that has a 99.9% recovery rate! Absolutely insane. Many accuse those who refuse to wear masks as ignorant and selfish when the "science" of CDC has admitted that 84% of those who tested positive wore a mask most if not all the time. I don't ridicule those who wear a mask but respect their decision as well as their health issues that would make them more at risk. Is it too much to respect the personal decisions of those who choose not to buy in to this hysteria?

NOT TRUE! That information was misinterpreted. Please Google the subject and you will see FACT CHECK shows it is not true. I don't want to link to articles about this because I'm sure this post would be deleted. Just know, that claim has been debunked.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Seve1

Man you folks are jumping to unfounded conclusions. They have been limiting the crowds and masks are mandatory. It is outside. If people are uncomfortable with the situation, please stay home. My wife and I stay away, but don’t begrudge those that attend the square activities as long as they follow the vivid guidelines. We are all adults here and personally I’m fine with the way it’s been handled. We need to live our lives, we’ve had flu virus for a long time and never locked down. Even the crazy WHO said lockdowns don’t work. Some of you people are getting paranoid again. Like I said if you’re concerned stay home.

I guess you haven't heard......All three squares will be open to everyone, no tickets required as of November 18th. The squares will be back to business as usual as in pre-pandemic. I won't be going until I'm vaccinated.

[ts12755]

We have therapeutics and soon a vaccine... Thanks to China it is here to stay, just like the regular flu virus. As we get back to normal, 80 million Americans will get Covid each year, just like regular flu. Also, just like regular flu expect 70,000 to die each year from Covid. It is here to stay. Get used to it. Go on with your life. Yes, tens of thousands will die each year, even with a vaccine. This is the new normal. Live, you dont have many years left.

[ts12755]

Exactly

[Polar Bear]

As of the 18th, do you still need to provide your own chairs?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Andyb

I suggest for your safety that you move to a remote area and stay indoors. Your welcome.

Who did you direct this comment to? Please QUOTE the post when you are directing a comment to someone. Thanks.

[ts12755]

Your ignorance is glaring. Don't you understand this pandemic. The only way to stop this pandemic is to shut down the entire world. 100 percent shut down. No grocery stores, no pharmacies, no TV or radio employees. No hospital workers, no police or firepersons leave their homes. No school operate. This has to take place across the world. No travel by car, plane, or ship. No food processing. If the world can do this, for at least 3 months we can stop covid. If not, learn to live with it. The president gave us therapeutics and a vaccine.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

No, didn't hear about the 22 year old. Can you provide a link?

I *did* hear about the 1,000 deaths in people under 30 out of 2,500,000 cases. That's approximately a 99.96% survival rate IF there are no non-diagnosed cases. If the estimate of 6 to 10 non-diagnosed cases for every known case is correct then it becomes a 99.993% survival rate.

I also heard about the 69,000 non-Covid deaths of people under 30. With 69 times greater chance of dying from something other than Covid, if I were in that age group I don't think Covid would be on the top of my list of things to watch out for.

I heard about the 22 year old male on a newscast on TV just yesterday. His mother was interviewed. I can not find an article to link regarding this young guy. There is, however, an article from April of a 22 year old Tulsa man, new dad, who passed away from Covid. Google it.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

There was a young athletic guy whose death was attributed to Covid. Turned out he had undiagnosed leukemia which made him very susceptible to getting sick. Not sure if that is the same guy or not.

No, doesn't sound like the same 22 year old man. His mother was interviewed on TV and she said he was very healthy.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Life comes with risks. Same thing could be said of pneumonia, the flu, strep or any other contagious illness. There can be lingering after affects. That doesn't mean you shut down the country and go into self isolation - there will always be viruses out there, it will never be completely safe.

I'm not a proponent of shut downs. Just the opposite. I'm all for going about our lives as best we can, out and about in the community but be smart about it. Always wear masks when in public spaces indoors and keep your distance from others. Outdoors, I'm NOT a proponent of wearing a mask unless you can not keep a safe distance from others. Please.....no shut downs. I do not want to see that happen.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

NOT TRUE! That information was misinterpreted. Please Google the subject and you will see FACT CHECK shows it is not true. I don't want to link to articles about this because I'm sure this post would be deleted. Just know, that claim has been debunked.

Since you won't due it I will your assertion was debunked.
Fact check: Does CDC study show '85 percent' of COVID-19 patients wore masks? Not exactly. :: WRAL.com