[cquick]

Originally Posted by gerryann

You also will find fantastic health care in Bonita and Naples. Health care here is questionable.

To me the most important difference is the home value and appreciation. You can't go wrong purchasing a home here in The Villages. The value will always increase........I had a difficult time selling my home in Bonita, and at a loss.

I don't think the health care here is "questionable". We have had very good care here, and Orlando Regional Medical Centers are only 1 hour away. Many people go to the university hospital in Gainesville for more complicated problems.
I certainly agree with the home values here. We sold our house in Orlando at a loss too.

[Greg Nelson]

Weather the thing we talk about the most and can do the least about. We left The Villages yesterday and are now staying in Islamorada on the Atlantic. The ocean is about 80F. Maybe we should visit TV in July. But that is the only month back in Minnesota you can pretty much bank on being real nice. I just wish TV was further south..IMHO...below 40F is no fun ...

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

The temperature difference between Bonita Springs and The Villages isn't all that great. If it's chilly here it's chilly there.

Check these two summaries:

The Villages

Bonita Springs

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by Jgg7933

Here is a site we use all the time to compare weather and temperature patterns. You put in the dates and choose the areas to find out what was going on every day of the year. Hope this helps.
[URL="http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KVVG/2015/10/1/CustomHistory.html?dayend=31&monthend=12&yearend=2 015&req_city=&req_state=&req_statename=&reqdb.zip= &reqdb.magic=&reqdb.wmo="]

I cleaned up the URL as it was not 'clickable' for me..

Weather Underground

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

Check these two summaries:

The Villages

Bonita Springs

Good info, thanks.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Very good points. And some of us actually enjoy a little change in the weather.

I do. I golfed at 7:47 and it felt good to be in the cool air. The course was pretty empty too, another bonus. I think looking for the silver lining or what's funny in everything is a much healthier way to live.

[goodtimesintv]

1. Gulf vacations (our favorites) are not the same as living in a place. What is there to do once you've walked the beach and soaked up some needed rays that have to be limited to avoid skin cancer. Go out for supper? That gets old. Sit in a house or condo watching t.v.? Boring.

2. When you actually live here for more than 5-6 months a year, you look forward to the cooler months, especially if you're golfers. And then it's not that cool and it doesn't last long.

3. There are distinct reasons why Florida is the #1 state from which people move to The Villages.

Two days ago in the Lake Sumter Landing Sales Office, on the "Welcome New Villagers" Board listing the closings on new/used home purchases between 12/28 and 12/31, there were 60 couples/persons listed with their states. Twenty-eight (28) of them were from Florida.

Look at the board in the coming weeks, and daily there will be 30-40 closings listed.

Getting a place in TV is a complete no-brainer.

[Sable99]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

1. Gulf vacations (our favorites) are not the same as living in a place. What is there to do once you've walked the beach and soaked up some needed rays that have to be limited to avoid skin cancer. Go out for supper? That gets old. Sit in a house or condo watching t.v.? Boring.

2. When you actually live here for more than 5-6 months a year, you look forward to the cooler months, especially if you're golfers. And then it's not that cool and it doesn't last long.

3. There are distinct reasons why Florida is the #1 state from which people move to The Villages.

Two days ago in the Lake Sumter Landing Sales Office, on the "Welcome New Villagers" Board listing the closings on new/used home purchases between 12/28 and 12/31, there were 60 couples/persons listed with their states. Twenty-eight (28) of them were from Florida.

Look at the board in the coming weeks, and daily there will be 30-40 closings listed.

Getting a place in TV is a complete no-brainer.

Last week, I was driving back to Michigan after visiting The Villages for two weeks. I started talking to an older man in the hotel lobby and he told me they were on there way to Naples, FL for the winter. I told him I owned a home in The Villages. He sad he wished their home was in The Villages as there was so much more to do. He said it gets a little boring just looking at the beach.

Mom and I used to own a condo on St. Augustine Beach. I loved the beach but there was so much more to do in TV. We built our TV home and put the condo on the market. It took us over a year to sell our condo and yes we took a loss when we sold it!

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by gerryann

Health care here is questionable.

What is the basis for the "questionable health care"? Dr. Kelly at Pinellas (for me) and Dr. Zimmerman at Colony (for my wife) have been nothing be great. I've hand left shoulder/hand repair since 6/27 and my wife had knee replacement 12/30 (all 3 with orthopedic surgeon Dr. Joe Tutorino at Florida Hospital in Altamonte Springs) and we've zero complaints about anything.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

What is the basis for the "questionable health care"? Dr. Kelly at Pinellas (for me) and Dr. Zimmerman at Colony (for my wife) have been nothing be great. I've hand left shoulder/hand repair since 6/27 and my wife had knee replacement 12/30 (all 3 with orthopedic surgeon Dr. Joe Tutorino at Florida Hospital in Altamonte Springs) and we've zero complaints about anything.

It's usually that people think excellent doctors only want to practice at the biggest research facilities, but most patients don't want to be a lab rat with students, 1st year interns, residents, and sub-specialists in training poking them and "looking for zebras" round the clock.

Most doctors want to work with people, not petri dishes, test tubes, and window-less rooms full of computers. Personally, I've never liked being presented to a group of white coats, as a specimen looking half-dead and not having had my hair washed in a week or more, unless I have something rare that requires the researchers.

Looking at the largest med centers in the U.S. here, Florida is very well represented. There are good doctors here in TV-Leesburg Area, too. Bigger hospital does not mean better doctors actually treating patients.

1. New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center (New York City) – 2,259
2. Florida Hospital Orlando – 2,242
3. Jackson Memorial Hospital (Miami) – 1,732
4. Methodist Hospital (San Antonio) – 1,585
5. UPMC Presbyterian (Pittsburgh) – 1,583
6. Yale-New Haven (Conn.) Hospital– 1,552
7. Orlando (Fla.) Regional Medical Center– 1,510
8. Montefiore Hospital-Moses Campus (Bronx, N.Y.) – 1,438
9. Baptist Medical Center (San Antonio) – 1,422
10. Indiana University Health Methodist Hospital (Indianapolis) – 1,372
11. Methodist University Hospital (Memphis, Tenn.) – 1,367
12. Barnes-Jewish Hospital (St. Louis) – 1,335
13. Norton Hospital (Louisville, Ky.) – 1,295
14. The Cleveland Clinic – 1,277
15. The Mount Sinai Medical Center (New York City) – 1,221
16. Memorial Hermann Southwest Hospital (Houston) – 1,176
17. Buffalo (N.Y.) General Hospital – 1,159
18. UAB Hospital (Birmingham, Ala.) – 1,118
19. North Shore University Hospital (Manhasset, N.Y.) – 1,076
20. Beaumont Hospital, Royal Oak (Mich.) – 1,070
21. Christiana Hospital (Newark, Del.) – 1,064
22. Memorial Regional Hospital (Hollywood, Fla.) – 1,037
23. Mount Sinai Beth Israel Medical Center (New York City) – 1,011
24. Saint Joseph's Hospital (Tampa, Fla.) – 1,006
25. Massachusetts General Hospital (Boston) – 999
26. Butterworth Hospital (Grand Rapids, Mich.) – 998
27. Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center (Columbus) - 978
27. The Johns Hopkins Hospital (Baltimore) – 978

100 largest hospitals in America

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Most doctors want to work with people, not petri dishes, test tubes, and window-less rooms full of computers. Personally, I've never liked being presented to a group of white coats, as a specimen looking half-dead and not having had my hair washed in a week or more, unless I have something rare that requires the researchers.

Looking at the largest med centers in the U.S. here, Florida is very well represented. There are good doctors here in TV-Leesburg Area, too. Bigger hospital does not mean better doctors actually treating patients.

I agree. I was both professor of medicine at a university hospital and chief of staff at a 130 bed community hospital. For most aspects of care, from aides to nurses to your primary care doctor, you get more attention and better care from your friends and neighbors that you will ever see at a tertiary care center. When you have a rare illness, or severe trauma, the university is where you need to be. But for run of the mill hospitalizations, I would stay local, and my family and I have. The only time any of us went to a big center was when I needed urgent cervical spine neurosurgery, something that was not available at our local hospital

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I agree. I was both professor of medicine at a university hospital and chief of staff at a 130 bed community hospital. For most aspects of care, from aides to nurses to your primary care doctor, you get more attention and better care from your friends and neighbors that you will ever see at a tertiary care center. When you have a rare illness, or severe trauma, the university is where you need to be. But for run of the mill hospitalizations, I would stay local, and my family and I have. The only time any of us went to a big center was when I needed urgent cervical spine neurosurgery, something that was not available at our local hospital

Amen!

[NYGUY]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

It's usually that people think excellent doctors only want to practice at the biggest research facilities, but most patients don't want to be a lab rat with students, 1st year interns, residents, and sub-specialists in training poking them and "looking for zebras" round the clock.

Most doctors want to work with people, not petri dishes, test tubes, and window-less rooms full of computers. Personally, I've never liked being presented to a group of white coats, as a specimen looking half-dead and not having had my hair washed in a week or more, unless I have something rare that requires the researchers.

Looking at the largest med centers in the U.S. here, Florida is very well represented. There are good doctors here in TV-Leesburg Area, too. Bigger hospital does not mean better doctors actually treating patients.

1. New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center (New York City) – 2,259
2. Florida Hospital Orlando – 2,242
3. Jackson Memorial Hospital (Miami) – 1,732
4. Methodist Hospital (San Antonio) – 1,585
5. UPMC Presbyterian (Pittsburgh) – 1,583
6. Yale-New Haven (Conn.) Hospital– 1,552
7. Orlando (Fla.) Regional Medical Center– 1,510
8. Montefiore Hospital-Moses Campus (Bronx, N.Y.) – 1,438
9. Baptist Medical Center (San Antonio) – 1,422
10. Indiana University Health Methodist Hospital (Indianapolis) – 1,372
11. Methodist University Hospital (Memphis, Tenn.) – 1,367
12. Barnes-Jewish Hospital (St. Louis) – 1,335
13. Norton Hospital (Louisville, Ky.) – 1,295
14. The Cleveland Clinic – 1,277
15. The Mount Sinai Medical Center (New York City) – 1,221
16. Memorial Hermann Southwest Hospital (Houston) – 1,176
17. Buffalo (N.Y.) General Hospital – 1,159
18. UAB Hospital (Birmingham, Ala.) – 1,118
19. North Shore University Hospital (Manhasset, N.Y.) – 1,076
20. Beaumont Hospital, Royal Oak (Mich.) – 1,070
21. Christiana Hospital (Newark, Del.) – 1,064
22. Memorial Regional Hospital (Hollywood, Fla.) – 1,037
23. Mount Sinai Beth Israel Medical Center (New York City) – 1,011
24. Saint Joseph's Hospital (Tampa, Fla.) – 1,006
25. Massachusetts General Hospital (Boston) – 999
26. Butterworth Hospital (Grand Rapids, Mich.) – 998
27. Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center (Columbus) - 978
27. The Johns Hopkins Hospital (Baltimore) – 978

100 largest hospitals in America

goodtimesintv, do you know how many of the 5 Florida Hospitals listed, other than Jackson Memorial (University of Miami) are teaching hospitals for University Medical Schools? I don't think anyone equated number of hospital beds with exceptional care.

[John_W]

I grew up in St. Petersburg, which is probably 100 miles north of Naples but is on Gulf. I haven't really considered the TV weather all that different than St. Pete's weather. One big difference is St. Pete as with most coastal cities, will get a lot of pop up thunderstorms. When you have water and land creating a lot of different rising temperatures, you get turbulent weather. In TV most of our weather is created by moving fronts and you can see the weather well in advance on radar.

I lived in Pensacola at one time for six years. Now if you were asking about that weather difference with the panhandle of Florida you would have something to really talk about.

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by John_W

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I lived in Pensacola at one time for six years. Now if you were asking about that weather difference with the panhandle of Florida you would have something to really talk about.

Definitely no argument there. I lived in Pensacola prior to moving to Bonita. Pensacola got down right frigid.....even had snow flurries a few times. Same for Palm Coast. Been spending a lot of time there and it gets mighty chilly.