[NoMo50]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

Ugh - I‘m sorry I posted this question - I should have realized it would turn ugly - I simply was asking at about what time do many of the snowbirds leave, and nothing more than a simple answer would have sufficed without the commentary. I’ll know better next time.

Ha Ha! You could start a thread asking what day it is, and you would still wind up with at least a dozen snarky comments from the Legion of Gloom that trolls this forum.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by wsachs

The largest states in population in The Villages are NY, NJ, OH, MI WI and Canada. Northern states where people had good paying jobs, health care, pensions who could afford to live here and spend their money. In fact, two men from Michigan created this place. Snowbirds still pay amenity fees and taxes year round, even if they aren't here. And how many Villagers originally were from FL? or surrounding southern states?

Wisconsin has less than 2000 households here, so not even in the top ten.

[Tom M]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

So what if the snowbird is staying just over 6 months in the Villages? Are they still "vacationing" in Florida? Why wouldn't you say that they are vacationing up north and are residents that are on an extended summer vacation? I wonder if the neighbors of their 2nd home up north moan when they return in the summer and celebrate them leaving in the fall?

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Akremer

Sounds like someone has a case of the crabbies

Welcome to TOTV.

[MayaC]

Imagine Florida without any tourism…

No snow birds
No tourists
No Cruise industry.

[Bilyclub]

I would not lump snowbirds in with the lower rungs of monthly renters or even lower AIRBNB day by day stuff.

[Lisanp@aol.com]

Maybe you’re so grumpy because it’s starting to get hot out and you are anxious about the sweltering Florida summer?

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Perhaps taking an Economics class during the summer when all the despicable Snowbirds leave, you'll glean some understanding of "markets" & "demands".

Are you implying that all the "lottery ticket" purchasers in T V are snow birds? Or that the ONLY people who would want to live in TV are snowbirds? Those choosing to move out of other states are ALL snowbirds? Economics and statistic consider ALL formulated possibilities. Snowbirds are not the end all saviors of the great State of Florida.

[GATORBILL66]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

I’ve only been here a few months - was just wondering at what point do most snowbirds return North?

Once the snowbirds leave, the streets and golf courses will be a lot cleaner. While the snowbirds are here there are so many cigarette butts and cigar butts all over the streets and golf courses. They just don't seem to care about how The Villages look. Come June you won't see their mess all over the place.
Not mention they won' be throwing their dog waste in the garbage cans at the pools and rec centers.
Full time residents seem to care so much more about the appearance of The Villages.

[Regorp]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

I’ve only been here a few months - was just wondering at what point do most snowbirds return North?

In DeLuna, the pool is so crowded there is not an inch of empty space, so once these snowbirds fly away, I will once again have my pool back, as I did last September. Not to mention the crowded roads and my beloved Aldi's. Bye bye!

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

Interesting (polite word for ironic) that you opt to weave the word "Easter" amongst the hateful "entitled" and "good riddance" comments.

Originally Posted by jtmedma

Sounds like you should be mad at "The Villages" for building more houses than the amenities can handle, not the snowbirds.

Didn't say ammenities. T V does a great job with keeping up with the ammenities.

What I was referring to is that outside of T V the municipalites are not able to keep up with the growth if the very well oiled Developer machine. The infrastructure, outside of the bubble.

One look at all the surrounding roads of the bubble will clearly show what I am referring to. Year round there is evidence they cannot keep up. Good news is eventually N of the turnpike will catch up to the growth of T V over the last 4 years.

Sadly, the for now quiet areas S of the turnpike / 470 toward Clermont, will experience the same infrastructure pains that you see outside of T V to the N of 470 that is what I am referring to.

[Marine1974]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

Sounds like not a friendly comment. Must have some other issues bothering them .
Can you imagine how housing prices would drop and amenity
fees would go up with no snowbirds ? The state of Florida would have to start collecting state tax if there were no snowbirds coming every year . Many have the luxury of 2 houses , one to avoid the heat and enjoy the nice summers up north and the other to escape the cold winters . Very unfriendly comments .

[Veiragirl]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

Oh you mean the ones who can't drive a golf cart, beep their horns,some are very rude. Just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same people. Snowbirds taste like chicken

[collie1228]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

You are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

Exactly. We should be thanking the snowbirds as we smile as they are leaving.