[butlerism]

Old people bickering.
Love to watch a good fight with no outcome.

[Ellen Szmyr]

Maybe she was from England or where people drive on the left side of the road????

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I agree with you completely. However, the fact that laws don't work, doesn't mean we should not have any. It is illegal to rob a bank - people still do.

I suspect that the fraction of people who drive after being told not to is far greater than the fraction of people who rob banks.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by butlerism

Old people bickering.
Love to watch a good fight with no outcome.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Windguy

I suspect that the fraction of people who drive after being told not to is far greater than the fraction of people who rob banks.

I expect you are right.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Shadywood

Here in America, I thought we were going to reserve punishment until you actually do something to be punished for. Sounds like the lady driving the wrong way needs a driving test, not everybody over some arbitrary age. My Dad was driving into his 90's. He quit driving on his own when he realized his dementia had progressed to the level that made him a danger to others. Nobody had to tell him he needed to be tested.

We used to teach respect for other people's rights, along with the idea of "innocent until proven guilty", and the now totally foreign concept of personal responsibility.

Maybe we ought to try that again.

So, you decide that taking a test to be able to drive is punishment, and then use that punishment for an argument against taking tests. Okay.

Taking tests is a punishment. I will have to think about that for a while. It changes everything.

And personal responsibility. Yeah, no more driver's licenses. We can just trust everyone to drive safely and if a few people get killed, well that is the just the cost of freedom.

[Marjorie Hardman]

Welcome to TV. Been here 4 years and have seen 4 ther similar incidents. Still wouldn't go back to snow and ice.

[KarenandJohn]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Yesterday I was on Buena vista traveling north in the right lane Biking.
Her comes a car going south in the left lane of the North bound two lanes going the wrong way.
I start screaming at this person your going the wrong way. The best I could tell, it was a older lady in her 80's plus barely able to look over the dash. I pulled over, looked back as she was going the wrong way in to the round about, OMG!!!
Thank God the person in the Blue SUV slammed on his brakes as she turned left into one of the villages. Also a state body utility truck almost broad sided her as well and slammed on the brakes as everyone else coming into the round about did. I think she was oblivious to what was happening.
HMMMMM no one wants there freedom taken away but this lady almost cause injury to 4 vehicle and there passengers UGGHHHHHH

People in TV can have their driver’s license revoked, be declared legally blind or deaf and still drive a golf cart on the streets.

[FUSSY LADY]

License is renewed for 6 years when you are 80 and over.

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I was shocked when we went to get our Florida drivers licenses that they were good for ten years. I think it would be a good idea to shorten up that interval as your age goes up. Maybe when you hit 60 drop it down to five years. At 65 drop it to three years. At 80 you should be checked every year. At 90, weekly. lol

This is why we have so many old people moving to Florida. License is good for 10 years.

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by KarenandJohn

People in TV can have their driver’s license revoked, be declared legally blind or deaf and still drive a golf cart on the streets.

Had a friend that was legally blind, couldn't see the greens so we had to line him up.
Annnddd, you guessed it, he still drove to the courses and home.

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Did you come from another state? When we got ours they told us that ours expired 10 years from the time our current licenses were issued in our old state.

Mine is only good for 9 years.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

rights, many think/feel that rights are able to do anything they want until they get caught, and then its someone / something else's fault? reeks of entitlement, or ODD. . .

However, what the free license versus testing by govt comes down to is whether the government wants to be proactive or reactive. Government is inherently reactive, ie, your are innocent until proven guilty. we all love that, because the alternative is a negative proactive stance by oppressive governments.

the legal system is reactive, so yes, a proactive testing system is ideal for safety, but is expensive and somewhat counter to the concept that you are innocent until proven guilty. Why? people have twisted the concept of innocent to be interpreted as a right or an entitlement, but that argument doesn't stand up in a court of law, most times for the average non billionaire.

I reacted negative in my mind to Grumpy once because he disagreed with me, and I know that he is still wrong as he typed theory versus reality in my little area of knowledge, but, I read and learn from his comments, because he knows more than i do in many more areas, and I can learn something from everyone, thankfully. . . I am not so entitled to believe that bbs board members can't disagree with me or can't know more about topics than I do, ie, i don't take his typing personally . . .

sportsguy

[Normal]

Laws help us interact with others of the human race in safety. We would need no laws if only one person lived in one place. But the reality is the population is booming in TV. Laws are needed.

Since that is the reason we have laws, you have to know that the mentioned driver can’t function with driving privileges and others. I pray for the good of all she is removed from the roads soon.

It wouldn’t be a sin to have all drivers tested every 2 years after receiving the first SS check.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Normal

Laws help us interact with others of the human race in safety. We would need no laws if only one person lived in one place. But the reality is the population is booming in TV. Laws are needed.

Since that is the reason we have laws, you have to know that the mentioned driver can’t function with driving privileges and others. I pray for the good of all she is removed from the roads soon.

It wouldn’t be a sin to have all drivers tested every 2 years after receiving the first SS check.

I agree with you.

Sadly laws are hard. Some are unenforcible, some are selectively enforced, some are unconstitutional and push a narrow agenda, and on and on. Eventually, people no longer obey the law because there is little to no deterrent. And it is sad that there has to be a punishment to get people to just get along with each other.