[kendi]

Originally Posted by dimaxim

At the risk of getting slammed with criticism, can't help but post this concern. In my golf cart on Friday on the cart path behind Laurel Manor - going to turn left into Winifred (admit I didn't put my turn signal on ). Nobody on the road except for the guy behind me. I turned left and apparently he didn't like that I did it without a turn signal on. He proceeded to shout obscenities at the top of his lungs for the next block. I finally turned in the opposite direction he was going just to avoid his rantings. Low and behold, a few minutes later I was waiting for traffic to clear at the intersection of Buena Vista and Sumter Lake Miona entrance. Apparently I didn't cross fast enough for the man behind me who proceeded yet again to yell at me. What is happening in this country of so many blessings that we have become so unkind and inconsiderate of others. Must have been something in the air that day. For me, I will just hope for the future to be better and forgive the obviously grumpy old men who felt compelled to be rude.

Thank you for sharing your desire to forgive. You’re doing more than hoping for the future. You’re contributing to a better future.

[mikeycereal]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

If the passed cart was doing 20 mph which is the speed limit, there is no reason to pass them. Unless your friend has a street legal cart, which is allowed to go 25 mph. What does "enhanced" mean ?

Means he had it turned up to go over 19.

[mikeycereal]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

How????

On interstate highways and other high speed limited access roads, the NUMBER ONE cause of accidents is slow drivers, particularly in the left lane. They might not be involved directly in a crash, but they certainly CAUSE them as other drivers scramble to get around what is essentially a road obstruction. Now some bozo will respond with the trite "We're retired, what's the rush?". Not the point, the point is that these clowns don't get to dictate speed to everyone else on the road----that's what the speed limit sign, determined by a legislature in consultation with traffic engineers are responsible for.

I'm usually somewhere between the fastest driver on the road and the slowest, and prefer not to be stuck behind the slowest.

[DonnaNi4os]

Originally Posted by dimaxim

At the risk of getting slammed with criticism, can't help but post this concern. In my golf cart on Friday on the cart path behind Laurel Manor - going to turn left into Winifred (admit I didn't put my turn signal on ). Nobody on the road except for the guy behind me. I turned left and apparently he didn't like that I did it without a turn signal on. He proceeded to shout obscenities at the top of his lungs for the next block. I finally turned in the opposite direction he was going just to avoid his rantings. Low and behold, a few minutes later I was waiting for traffic to clear at the intersection of Buena Vista and Sumter Lake Miona entrance. Apparently I didn't cross fast enough for the man behind me who proceeded yet again to yell at me. What is happening in this country of so many blessings that we have become so unkind and inconsiderate of others. Must have been something in the air that day. For me, I will just hope for the future to be better and forgive the obviously grumpy old men who felt compelled to be rude.

There are so many angry people out there. I tend to ignore those that are mean-spirited and foul mouthed. You never know who could start shooting. Such scary times. .

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

How????

On interstate highways and other high speed limited access roads, the NUMBER ONE cause of accidents is slow drivers, particularly in the left lane. They might not be involved directly in a crash, but they certainly CAUSE them as other drivers scramble to get around what is essentially a road obstruction. Now some bozo will respond with the trite "We're retired, what's the rush?". Not the point, the point is that these clowns don't get to dictate speed to everyone else on the road----that's what the speed limit sign, determined by a legislature in consultation with traffic engineers are responsible for.

Well said, surprised so many do not understand the problem with driving under the speed limit.

[Tyson]

Its the CULT. They are all over TV, just like cockroaches kill one and a dozen show up.

[billethkid]

Thanx for the less than 1% unfriendly persons report.
From those of us in the over 99% in TV.

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[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by dimaxim

At the risk of getting slammed with criticism, can't help but post this concern. In my golf cart on Friday on the cart path behind Laurel Manor - going to turn left into Winifred (admit I didn't put my turn signal on ). Nobody on the road except for the guy behind me. I turned left and apparently he didn't like that I did it without a turn signal on. He proceeded to shout obscenities at the top of his lungs for the next block. I finally turned in the opposite direction he was going just to avoid his rantings. Low and behold, a few minutes later I was waiting for traffic to clear at the intersection of Buena Vista and Sumter Lake Miona entrance. Apparently I didn't cross fast enough for the man behind me who proceeded yet again to yell at me. What is happening in this country of so many blessings that we have become so unkind and inconsiderate of others. Must have been something in the air that day. For me, I will just hope for the future to be better and forgive the obviously grumpy old men who felt compelled to be rude.

My personal opinion is that bad driving, distracted driving, and discourteous driving are side effects of the Pandemic. Many people (not all) have acquired a slight anti-social mindset after Covid. And they are taking out their aggressions and frustrations when they are behind the wheel of a vehicle. I am not sure why, but I would hope that there is some ongoing psychological research on this possibility. And if there is a TRUE link there, then I would like to see a book come out about it.

i seem to have noticed that after the Pandemic, vehicle speeding has become almost universal. It is like many drivers are saying that the Virus did NOT respect them and limited their life activities ........so NOW its payback time......they will drive as if they have NO respect for other drivers. Drivers have become nasty with a chip on their shoulders. They drive without empathy and are predisposed to being RUDE and aggressive.

I have seen commercial vehicles and older residents driving at around 50 mph on 20 mph narrow residential streets with blind curves.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

My personal opinion is that bad driving, distracted driving, and discourteous driving are side effects of the Pandemic. Many people (not all) have acquired a slight anti-social mindset after Covid. And they are taking out their aggressions and frustrations when they are behind the wheel of a vehicle. I am not sure why, but I would hope that there is some ongoing psychological research on this possibility. And if there is a TRUE link there, then I would like to see a book come out about it.

i seem to have noticed that after the Pandemic, vehicle speeding has become almost universal. It is like many drivers are saying that the Virus did NOT respect them and limited their life activities ........so NOW its payback time......they will drive as if they have NO respect for other drivers. Drivers have become nasty with a chip on their shoulders. They drive without empathy and are predisposed to being RUDE and aggressive.

I have seen commercial vehicles and older residents driving at around 50 mph on 20 mph narrow residential streets with blind curves.

Interesting theory that may have some merit. There were bad and discourteous drivers prior to the pandemic, and distracted drivers led to cell phone while driving laws in many states pre-pandemic. But I agree, it just seems much worse

A perfect example occurred about 2 months ago. I was driving south on the BV MMP in my cart, and I saw another cart headed toward the stop sign where a tunnel ramp merged into the main MMP. It did not appear that he was going to stop, and he didn't, shooting right in front of me as I simultaneously braked into a skid and leaned on the horn. In return he gave a one-finger salute. At the next stop sign at the gate crossing, I pulled behind him and relatively politely reminded him that the large, red, octagonal sign with STOP on it really means just that. His response was "blow it out my @$$". I was briefly tempted to acquaint that part of his anatomy with my 7 iron, sideways, but concluded that not only this jerk wasn';t worth it, but my 7 iron is more valuable than he is.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I probably meet one hundred people a month or so for brief periods of time but only less than 5% really cause any kind of problems for others.

It is when those 5% join a club, the same club, that things start going downhill.

I used to go to a Philosophy club. And I person (out of about 20) totally dominated about 70% of all discussions And he did not EVEN have interesting comments. I gave up after about 5 sessions. The group moderator made little attempt to prevent that one-person domination. So 1 out of 20......there is your 5%.

I also remember going to a water volleyball group for years. There was 1 person that I HATED to be on the same team with. He was a pretty good player, but by far NOT the best. He decided that he was a SELF-APPOINTED COACH for anybody or everybody that made a mistake during play. One day he got on me and I could NOT take it anymore. i screamed out for him to NEVER say another word to me........which he did. Later after play, many people came up to me and said that it was a wonder that no one had ever called him out before. I mean he was OBNOXIOUS !

So, I have seen examples of how 5 % of a group can ruin the whole group. Note.......I have also noticed from being in many group activities that IF the group leader is a WOMAN the activities are run more smoothly and better led. Just my personal observation.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GaryKoca

Most people here are just fine. But one thing I have noticed, When I am on a street like Hillsboro when the driving lane and golf cart lane merge and I am on my golf cart merging (turn signal is on), more and more drivers will cut me off even though they entered the lane after me. Never used to see that before.

An example of my theory of the politeness change after Covid.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by banksupply

Coming home from water volleyball I got behind a gal that was going 15-16 miles per hour and I decided to go around this gal and her dog. As I passed I did a kind wave to say thanks for letting me pass and she laid on the horn! What!!! I was trying to be friendly. It's shocking how some people think being ugly is ok....where are their manners?

Perhaps try NOT passing in that situation. maybe the cart driver has been SPOOKED by cars passing too close to her in the past.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by bwasman

Many people in Florida and the Villages think you can relax and not be responsible when driving....I"d remind you that driving is a full time responsibility and requires full time attention. The rules are the same for everyone and if you are lax and irresponsible you put someone in potential jeopardy. You don't have that right! If you don't know the rules..LEARN THEM...You don't stop learning just because you are in The Villages or Florida and are older. Driving a car, golf cart, bicycle or walking requires constant attention. You cannot fall asleep just because traffic has stopped or because you want to make up your own rules. The speeds are designed for everybody, not for you to decide how fast or slow you wish to go because of your mood. Going too slow is just as bad as going too fast! Don't even get me started on the number of companies that don't have proper lighting on trailers etc.

With respect to the last sentence. I don't believe that The Villages employs enough Police. if you know about that problem then WHY do NOT the Police.......and act on it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Jacob85

I totally agree. It’s hard to understand why so many old retired people are in such a hurry. Also, the climate now in the last few years seems to be one in which people feel free to deal with their anger in an aggressive way.

"the last few years"......that would lend credibility to my Covid theory.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mikeycereal

On grumps, during my first golf card ride in the villages last year a friend who was taking me around with his enhanced cart mentioned that a few times when he passed others they gave the finger. Currently I have yet to encounter anyone yelling at me on my cart for anything, but they'll need to shout above Van Halen on volume 11.

To me "enhanced"carts are a problem. It would seem safer if all carts had the same top speed. But, anyway when I am out working in my yard and a faster, enhanced cart drives by I notice that it smells more than the unenhanced ones.