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As I rode my golf cart to Belvedere Library yesterday, the cart path took me alongside Palmer Club. I was amazed to see one area of the lake bed exposed with not a lick of water in sight. Anyone know what that is all about? SHR
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As I rode my golf cart to Belvedere Library yesterday, the cart path took me alongside Palmer Club. I was amazed to see one area of the lake bed exposed with not a lick of water in sight. Anyone know what that is all about? SHR
Two years ago in May I was at the first tee at Palmer waiting to tee off (with L2RDHD from TOTV). The starter said "See that area there? That used to be a lake. We'll never see that full again in my lifetime". Well, it rained for 4 straight days with over 9 inches of rain (anybody remember that?) and viola - it was a lake again. I hope the starter made it through the week!

Not sure that is what is happening now but thought I'd share that story.
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What is happening is over three years of draught.
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Well, the drought would explain things. I have been visiting TV for almost 4 years, and distinctly remember seeing a lake where the dust bowl now is. I know I don't see well, but well, a LAKE I would remember, and see. I'm hoping the developer is not waiting for the lake bed to dry up, before turning the site into more homes........
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Drought, for sure.

Also, many of the water places around are interconnected and water from A can be moved to B and C where someone determines a greater need.

I have no clue about the details of that, but in my 6 years, I've seen many "lakes" or "ponds" go from full one week to empty the next - or vice versa!

It's one of those puzzles meant to send us all 'round the bend!

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What is happening is over three years of draught.
And if this type of weather continues, how is the water table going to support additional houses and golf courses south of 466A. The retention ponds throughout the villages are at the lowest levels I have seen in the last four years. Makes you wonder whether there should be some type on controls on development.
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If memory serves me (and lately that has been problematic) , last year about this time the lakes were also low.

One major storm came thru, it may have been in April, it rained for a few days like Noah and the Ark days, and the ponds got overfilled. The lake across from the Bonita Pool was so full the trees around the edge of the pond were submerged for weeks.

One of the funniest sights was the common area sprinklers runnning during these torrential rainstorms. My initial thought was that someone dropped the ball and was not doing thier job until the announcer on WVLG told us that they were on by design to take the pressure off of the lakes!!!
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Drought, for sure.

Also, many of the water places around are interconnected and water from A can be moved to B and C where someone determines a greater need.

I have no clue about the details of that, but in my 6 years, I've seen many "lakes" or "ponds" go from full one week to empty the next - or vice versa!

It's one of those puzzles meant to send us all 'round the bend!

SWR
Perfectly right, as usual!!!
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Perfectly right, as usual!!!
Hmmm. Maybe that explains the reported siting on another thread of a vehicle going round 'n round the roundabout.
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And if this type of weather continues, how is the water table going to support additional houses and golf courses south of 466A. The retention ponds throughout the villages are at the lowest levels I have seen in the last four years. Makes you wonder whether there should be some type on controls on development.
The retention ponds store "grey water", runoff from the streets etc., that is used for irrigation. That water has nothing to do with our drinking supply.
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I remember last year around this time a heavy rainstorm that lasted several hours turned the street in front of my house into a raging river. The next day I rode around and noticed the large retention basin at the back of the complex was about half full. Two weeks later it was bone dry again.

Here’s a description of the various types of retention basins that can be constructed.
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Default The word lake is used rather freely all over FL in reference to

anything larger than a cheerios bowl!
To TV sales people they may be lakes for good reason.

For those of us born and raised on or near a real lake or one of the great lakes, like Lake Erie.

Even the lakes outside TV, like Weir are at least a decent boat ride around the edges.

Most of the FL lakes and especially the ones here in TV are merely retention ponds with a property enhancing moniker.

I will admit, great lake or lake or pond.....if you have a home overlooking one it is definitely a visual and calming advantage.

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The retention ponds store "grey water", runoff from the streets etc., that is used for irrigation. That water has nothing to do with our drinking supply.
Who said anything about drinking water?? Are you trying to say that additional development does not stress the area water supply? Where is the water for golf courses and lawns coming from if the retention ponds are too low? If retention ponds are created with additional development, rain water that would normally go to the area aquafers will instead go to the retention ponds. There was insufficient water this year to properly overseed the championship courses. It will only get worse when they build additional courses and homes.
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Who said anything about drinking water?? Are you trying to say that additional development does not stress the area water supply? Where is the water for golf courses and lawns coming from if the retention ponds are too low? If retention ponds are created with additional development, rain water that would normally go to the area aquafers will instead go to the retention ponds. There was insufficient water this year to properly overseed the championship courses. It will only get worse when they build additional courses and homes.
And your solution is?
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All drinking water comes from the deep aquifers that you do not see. There are two major types of aquifers: Surficial aquifers (less than 100 feet in surface depth) that are recharged locally as the water-table fluctuates in response to drought or rainfall. Therefore, the temperature and flow from water-table springs varies.
The principal artesian aquifer (called the Florida aquifer) is the largest, oldest, and deepest aquifer in the southeastern U.S. and ranges over 100,000square miles with water under pressure and this is a constant aquifer that was developed during the Paleocene to early Miocene periods, when Florida was underwater. There is so much water in this aquifer system that Florida allows many water bottle plants to tap this water system. Florida's aquifers discharge over 8 billion gallons of water each day; they are among the most productive in the world.
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