[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Klatu

I suspect the state does not yet have clear idea of how many doses are coming and is therefore reluctant to put a firm schedule in place. We may get impatient but let's just be remember that the healthcare folks are just as anxious as we are to roll out as many vaccinations as we are. And the state officials know we are watching them. So let's not get too bent out of shape. After all, we were told by the doomsayers months ago that there was no way we could develop a vaccine by end of year. But the President's Operation Warp Speed did just that. Kudos to all involved and the shots are coming....

Some people just seem to need to complain. Anything productive about it? NOPE.

[PugMom]

this comment may be removed, but it's worth it for me to support dr winston's comment re: tuskeegee exp. it was most certainly true, & will defend his right to post. over & out

[TJLAMPHERE]

The lithiam crystals Captain....they won't hold out much longer....

[Regor]

If and that's a big IF, they were able to administer one million shots per day, with 250+ million people eligible to get the shot, it would take almost a year for everyone just to get their 1st shot.

[New Englander]

The Captain will initiate warp speed.

[Luisa]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

This criticism might be a bit harsh. From the CDC link that was provided it is possible to find the ACIP recommendations and in particular the evidence table for allocations where the following two statements can be found.

In the Ethics section for essential workers:

Mitigate health inequities: COVID-19 vaccination helps to address the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 among some racial and ethnic minorities who are overrepresented in subsets of essential workers.

In the Ethics section for persons over 65 years:

Mitigate health inequities: Although racial and ethnic minority groups are underrepresented among persons >65 years,

While the ACIP certainly didn't say "old people are too white," the racial makeup of the different groups clearly was part of the consideration.

Systemic racism does exist, just not where the media would like you to think.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Luisa

My words exactly.

Fifty different states, with varying budgets, distributing an amount of doses that has a quantity that has shrunk terribly since the fall, with fifty different plans sounds like a recipe for disaster.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by DAVES

Some people just seem to need to complain. Anything productive about it? NOPE.

Complain? Where was this poster complaining? Discussing is more like it, but not complaining. Vaccine distribution is a huge topic to discuss so I welcome the discussion.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Luisa

Why are poc more likely to get COVID or more serious cases? How about taking more personal responsibility for social distancing, life style, eating habits.

I believe it all comes down to the quality and frequency of health care. Think about it.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Complain? Where was this poster complaining? Discussing is more like it, but not complaining. Vaccine distribution is a huge topic to discuss so I welcome the discussion.

For many, ANY disagreeing or offering a differing opinion or not going along with the agenda are all components warranting the label of complaining.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

OK, I wasn't sure about the time between doses but I was evidently wrong.

I just read an interesting article. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices has recommended that senior citizens be moved toward the back of the line because racial and ethnic minorities are under-represented in this group. In other words, seniors are too white.

I wonder if this is why places like Orlando are getting the virus first.

We have a better chance of gaining herd immunity in Florida than receiving a vaccination. Seems like that was the plan all along.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

OK, I wasn't sure about the time between doses but I was evidently wrong.

I just read an interesting article. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices has recommended that senior citizens be moved toward the back of the line because racial and ethnic minorities are under-represented in this group. In other words, seniors are too white.

I wonder if this is why places like Orlando are getting the virus first.

I've heard that on two different cable channels now (surprised) in addition to FOX of course, and read two print articles stating the same. One article wisely brought out that the taboos surrounding the virus (ties to weight, ethnic characteristics, etc., while politically correct, are actually adding to the sickness and death rates by arbitrarily deciding which "per-existing" can be discussed publicly and which can not (for fear of outrage and economic backlash, or "cancelling") One puzzling example they gave was some conditions like heart disease and diabetes can be discussed/advertised, while other proven risk ties such as over weight and ethnic composition, and others are not to be mentioned (but are certainly available to those few who care to spend the time finding medical journal research and stats not on the evening news) due to their "sensitive" nature. It's an interesting observation of our culture, that we are selective about which and how much information we disburse to the masses, and the ethical (?) base we use to make decisions along those lines. Just an interesting observation on our culture.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

We have a better chance of gaining herd immunity in Florida than receiving a vaccination. Seems like that was the plan all along.

I do not believe there was a plan, except to dump it all in the hands of individual states, let them make rules and administer it all logistically.

That does not sound like a "plan" to me, but again....a recipe to insure that backbiting, racial unrest, etc., exceeds the clamor for a plan to administer the largest vaccine program as of yet.

Add to that plan that we knew months ago what was going to happen and when....yet....the money to help was just signed a few days ago.

[claricecolin]

Originally Posted by Luisa

Why are poc more likely to get COVID or more serious cases? How about taking more personal responsibility for social distancing, life style, eating habits.

It is more than that. POC are more likely to live in multi generational households, work in more frontline positions. Meaning jobs where you cannot work from home leading to more exposure even if you are doing everything else correctly.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by claricecolin

It is more than that. POC are more likely to live in multi generational households, work in more frontline positions. Meaning jobs where you cannot work from home leading to more exposure even if you are doing everything else correctly.

I am afraid that your true and logical (and oft stated) fact will fall on deaf ears.