[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by njbchbum;5***41

golfingnut -would you please be so kind as to explain first, how suspension of the political forum has now turned into deletion; and second, how deletion of the political forum benefits the rest of the forums?

Hi,

This is copied from my post:
My point is, that if one of the forums is deleted for the benefit of the rest, then in MY OPINION, it is a wise and kind thing to do

Sorry if you might possibly have misunderstood my meaning. Please feel free to contact me via PM if you still need further explanation of what I intended.

[Augie]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut;5***07

Its not like that at all. Please read other forums in this site and you will see:
1. Senior help hints and Ideas.
2. Scam alerts and advise.
3. Good and Bad Contractors.
4. Money saving Ideas for seniors.
5. Congratulations/ Thank yous/ Happy birthdays/ Get well Prayers, etc. etc.
6. For sales and wanted adds.
7. Club/Event information.
8. Experts on line to help us with our questions about so many topics.
9. Church information and Help or support group updates.
These are just a few of the many reasons that thousands of people use TOTV as their daily calendar and sometimes just a friend to talk to.

My point is, that if one of the forums is deleted for the benefit of the rest, then in MY OPINION, it is a wise and kind thing to do for so many Villagers at the expense of only a hand full of those that would for lack of a better term, become so passionate about one topic, that they :::::: ah ah ah , well I think you get the message. Please stay with us and this is the friendliest home town in America.

I believe that this has been one of the best business decisions that TOTV has made. I would bet that it will provide great benefits to the owner(s) and the members. I have started passing on the word that TOTV is now a friendlier forum with a mentally healthier environment. I see the membership not only increasing, but also old friends returning. Give it a little time. The nasty ones will find a new place to torment.

Someone (probably Gracie) asked a while back, where all of the old posters had gone. I can personally name a few more than a dozen of them who quit visiting TOTV just because of the disrespectful, bull-headed, uncompromising postings of others. This was especially prevalent and concentrated in the Political Thread.

If you go way back to when the Political Thread was made "members only" you'll find BTK and some of the others making the same arguments. It worked out then (for a while) and doing away with it entirely will work out now. The membership and the owners will come away the winners.

To Admin - nice job.

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725;5***66

Kind of hard to protect a message board if the new guise wearer behaves.

I'm not sure, but if the admins have access to each user's IP address, then they should be able to tell if someone comes back under another name

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by Augie;5***78

I believe that this has been one of the best business decisions that TOTV has made. I would bet that it will provide great benefits to the owner(s) and the members. I have started passing on the word that TOTV is now a friendlier forum with a mentally healthier environment. I see the membership not only increasing, but also old friends returning. Give it a little time. The nasty ones will find a new place to torment.

Someone (probably Gracie) asked a while back, where all of the old posters had gone. I can personally name a few more than a dozen of them who quit visiting TOTV just because of the disrespectful, bull-headed, uncompromising postings of others. This was especially prevalent and concentrated in the Political Thread.

If you go way back to when the Political Thread was made "members only" you'll find BTK and some of the others making the same arguments. It worked out then (for a while) and doing away with it entirely will work out now. The membership and the owners will come away the winners.

To Admin - nice job.

I agree! I will be happy to see old members returning !

[DandyGirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725;5***66

Kind of hard to protect a message board if the new guise wearer behaves.

What are you trying to protect the message board from if they are "behaving" ? Seems to me they learned a lesson and are trying to do better.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by quirky3;5***80

I'm not sure, but if the admins have access to each user's IP address, then they should be able to tell if someone comes back under another name

But what if the IP address is for a household with a router where two people both belong on the board? If they block an IP address, might they be blocking someone who has done nothing wrong?

[eweissenbach]

I GET why the admin might want to get the politics board out of his life. The moderation of that board probably takes ten times as much time as the rest of the forums combined.

I DON'T GET why some TOTV members are so glad to see it go. NO ONE that disliked that kind of debate needed to even see the thread topics, much less click on the threads and read them. I personally enjoyed the politics board and found it immensely entertaining at times, but I can live without it just fine. However, I don't understand the sentiment of good riddance that some people who did not care to participate seem to express.

[eweissenbach]

By the way; isn't it interesting that the thread about the demise of the politics board has been, by far, the most active thread on the board the last two or three days. What conclusions might be drawn from that fact?

[pooh]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

By the way; isn't it interesting that the thread about the demise of the politics board has been, by far, the most active thread on the board the last two or three days. What conclusions might be drawn from that fact?

LOLOLOL....you're so right!

[mulligan]

HMMMM-- I see 22 pages of fairly civil discussion, and nobody has been put in time out.

[moosemann8]

It would seem to me that if the Political Forum is suspended, then so should political advertisements, i.e., paid for by "Restore Our Future Inc" advertisement shown in TOTV today.

[Augie]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

I GET why the admin might want to get the politics board out of his life. The moderation of that board probably takes ten times as much time as the rest of the forums combined.

I DON'T GET why some TOTV members are so glad to see it go. NO ONE that disliked that kind of debate needed to even see the thread topics, much less click on the threads and read them. I personally enjoyed the politics board and found it immensely entertaining at times, but I can live without it just fine. However, I don't understand the sentiment of good riddance that some people who did not care to participate seem to express.

Perhaps the fact that pure ignorance, hatred, bias, bigotry, and grade school yard bullying even exists in adult world can be uncomfortable and disconcerting for some. Some folks just don't know how to play nice with others. You can't convince me that it isn't on purpose that "the few" act the way they do. I would speculate that they may be making up for short-comings in their lives.

That's my opinion.

[notlongnow]

Perhaps the fact that pure ignorance, hatred, bias, bigotry, and grade school yard bullying even exists in adult world can be uncomfortable and disconcerting for some. Some folks just don't know how to play nice with others. You can't convince me that it isn't on purpose that "the few" act the way they do. I would speculate that they may be making up for short-comings in their lives.

That's my opinion.

I think this misses the point.
If you do not want any of that to happen to you, it was as easy as unsubsrcibing to the forum, not joining the forum, not reading the forum, not posting in the forum. Besides, everything you listed can be experienced daily without going on a forum. At least it was in a controlled environment.
I hope it was suspended because of the work it was causing for the moderator and not because a few dabbled in the forum and got offended leading them to complain and causing it to be suspended.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by notlongnow

I think this misses the point.
If you do not want any of that to happen to you, it was as easy as unsubsrcibing to the forum, not joining the forum, not reading the forum, not posting in the forum. Besides, everything you listed can be experienced daily without going on a forum. At least it was in a controlled environment.
I hope it was suspended because of the work it was causing for the moderator and not because a few dabbled in the forum and got offended leading them to complain and causing it to be suspended.

It just sounds like it got too hot in there because of the date involved-- 2012. Maybe, it will cool down quite a bit after November.


I had thought about abandoning it quite often; that was my choice though.

[EdV]

Originally Posted by mikeod;5***94

But what if the IP address is for a household with a router.....

Or from one of the many wi-fi hotspots in restaurants etc.