[bkcunningham1]

Mr. Dills, I believe you posted in the wrong thread. It looks like you are giving a movie review.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

Mr. Dills, I believe you posted in the wrong thread. It looks like you are giving a movie review.

I believe his previous thread about the movie was removed, so he is trying to insinuate it in this thread.

[bkcunningham1]

Okay. Thank you, eweissenbach. I didn't realize that the movie review was removed.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I think the implication is very clear now. A poster is saying that he/she (I'm betting, she), in concert with three others, bombarded the thread to try to draw out their political opponents into "addressing them" or some other "offense". They they would, no doubt, bombard the Admin and Moderator with complaints of "hurt feelings" and what-not.

I think their aim was to get people thrown off the board in support of some sick game of theirs, but they got more than they really wanted when the Forum was shut down. Now their game is over.

I guess they can always prank the neighbors now.

If this is true, and the political area returns, I am sure that the admin can identify those folks and hope they can ban them totally from any rebirth of the forum by IP so they cannot ever post there again.

While 2008 during the campaign was heated, it did not hold a candle to recently and if was what has been implied, then those folks must be banned.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

It seems that it might be alright if we wimps stayed out of it and let the people be as frisky as they want. Remove the red triangle so it isn't a headache for the moderators and just let the folks enjoy their debate.

If blood starts seeping into the other forums we know that it is getting bad in there.

What do you think Kenneth? Look at all of those posts about it?

Please bring it back. I will stay out and not offer any opinions except to warn folks it isn't for the meek of heart.

thank you for your support, graciegirl!

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Schaumburger

I opted in to the political forum for about 2 weeks last year. The heat was too hot in that kitchen for this wimp, so I opted out and I have no desire to opt back in to the political forum. But for the for the bold, adventurous and politically passionate, they should have a place on TOTV to post and debate. Just my 2 cents.

thanx for that two cents, schaumburger! and for your support, too!

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The big talkers in political....even when they are out...they still make me cringe.

My problem with that forum is that people don't seem to speak from common sense. They all parrot stuff they have heard on some network or some web site. They seem to swallow things whole and belch back rhetoric.

For those bossy and stubbornly opinionated folks, you have to be all or nothin'. That just doesn't make sense to me.There is no reason that an intelligent person can't like or dislike things from both sides. That doesn't even make them an independent. That is MY biggest two beefs about my very few sojourns into the fray. The lack of real thinking and the harshness.

I for one do object, once again, to the continual negative generalization that is conveyed to all members of the political forum based on the behavior of a few. And always seemingly conveyed by those who "do not frequent" or "do not like" politics.

To accuse the many of "the lack of real thinking and harshness" is in my opinion....rather harsh!!!!!

Seems it matters not what forum one is in the same things some accuse us of in political do and say things exactly the same way.

As I have asked several times previously in this thread....NOW JUST WHY IS THAT????

btk

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I for one do object, once again, to the continual negative generalization that is conveyed to all members of the political forum based on the behavior of a few. And always seemingly conveyed by those who "do not frequent" or "do not like" politics.

To accuse the many of "the lack of real thinking and harshness" is in my opinion....rather harsh!!!!!

Seems it matters not what forum one is in the same things some accuse us of in political do and say things exactly the same way.

As I have asked several times previously in this thread....NOW JUST WHY IS THAT????

btk

Billy. You are never guilty of anything but a considered presentation of your opinion. I have NEVER known you to be harsh. I just hate being called stupid...even if I am. I am not cut out for those kinds of exchanges.

I rarely read it. I certainly wouldn't complain to the moderators about it. Something mighty awful must have happened.

I know this. When I would go in there. Even the folks with whom I agreed in their " preaching to the chior" sometimes made me think I should join another church. That isn't the way to gain support for something you believe in utterly. And that is what most of us want. Our ideas voted in. I think that it did more harm than good on many occasions. Isn't part of it trying to present an idea in such a way that people will think about it? Or do we discuss politics in such a way as to cut 'em off at the knees?

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by rp001

That describes the climate on that forum...One says something and his pals chime in...I've seen people really attacked there and it was personal..It has no place in an understanding and communicative environment...It was used as a private attack forum, to promote a "select" few's agenda...GOOD RIDDANCE

rp001 - if you did not like what you observed in political, why did you stay there? and why would you deny us 'select few' our daily mental exercise and political view exchages - heated 'tho it can become? and in my opinion its environment was one of communication and trying to make others understand - something that is sorely lacking without political now.

remember - if you do not opt in you cannot be offended.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The big talkers in political....even when they are out...they still make me cringe.

My problem with that forum is that people don't seem to speak from common sense. They all parrot stuff they have heard on some network or some web site. They seem to swallow things whole and belch back rhetoric.

For those bossy and stubbornly opinionated folks, you have to be all or nothin'. That just doesn't make sense to me.There is no reason that an intelligent person can't like or dislike things from both sides. That doesn't even make them an independent. That is MY biggest two beefs about my very few sojourns into the fray. The lack of real thinking and the harshness.

gracie - political is certainly a forum where emotions can rule above and beyond common sense! boy howdy!

but ya know what, how different is it from the restaurant forum where folks post their disappointment at a restaurant and a gaggle of posters follow up with their expressions of how that couldn't be because they had such a great experience there? and there have been some pretty bitter exchanges over those differences in opinion! and how about the differences of opinion re gas carts vs electric carts? or cart dealers? double boy howdy!

political is similar - just more open because we are an opt-in forum and exercise a bit less discretion.

ps gracie - political requires far greater thinking skills than posting on any other forum on totv!

[billethkid]

Gracie my issue is with the general characterization of the political forum based ONLY on the few in political that caused you and others to feel the way you do about your experience in political.

Some of us have learned to either have those who offend us blocked as well as ignore the stone throwers.

I for one am not willing to deny myself participating in what most of us enjoy in political.....thoughtful and yes differing opinion discussions.

And in a more civil manner than is presented to us all every day by the media and the politicians.

I think the administration should have pulled the plug on the offenders and not task, like many in this thread, the entire membership of the political forum.

btk

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Personally, I feel about the same way as RichieLion. It was not mandatory to sign up for Political Forum. If someone could not take the barbs, just opt out. I would really like to see it brought back with no holds barred - except for just minimal rules of decency.

True, no one was going to change anyone's political bend with a post but it was interesting to hear the others talk of their candidates and issues.

me too! at least i could gain an understanding of why posters believed anf felt the way they did - nothing said i had to agree with them - but understanding them was invaluable - even if we did get a bit rough around the edges!

[obxgal]

I did not participate but I always enjoyed reading the political forum. I found some of the members to be very intelligent and articulate in many of the posts they wrote.
It definitely was a learning experience for me.

As far as the snide, nasty remarks.....they always seemed to be from the same people. There were times I thought of opting out, but felt some of the conversations and insight from many of the members outweighed the nasty few. For those praising the fact it is gone, as said before you had a choice of being there or opting out.

The one thing I don't understand is waiting until after the election to bring it back. Knowledge is power, but receiving it after the election is useless. Just my 2 cents.

[RichieLion]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

gracie - political is certainly a forum where emotions can rule above and beyond common sense! boy howdy!

but ya know what, how different is it from the restaurant forum where folks post their disappointment at a restaurant and a gaggle of posters follow up with their expressions of how that couldn't be because they had such a great experience there? and there have been some pretty bitter exchanges over those differences in opinion! and how about the differences of opinion re gas carts vs electric carts? or cart dealers? double boy howdy!

political is similar - just more open because we are an opt-in forum and exercise a bit less discretion.

ps gracie - political requires far greater thinking skills than posting on any other forum on totv!

Very well said and right on point, including your analogy. Bravo!!

[lovesports]

This thread has gone on a long time. I know I will get stoned by some for saying this. Most everything I say had been said many times in this thread.
The Admin pay for this private forum. They clearly stated that they were sick of handing all the reports and nastiness on the political. It took them 24/7. Now that's not a few posters.
I remember back in 2007 on-- when it was open and the things that were said were very upsetting to many. It then went to an opt in and the same people complained and complained about it going opt in. That was under the old owners. In time it was accepted.
There are a TON of political forums and many are listed in posts on here. Try them or start your own. Also, you can start a club or join one already started etc.
Seriously there are many places you can post about politics.
I repeat-I think everything to be said has been said on this thread. What don't you get about the fact that the Admin pays for and puts a ton of time into running this private forum. I guarantee the people complaining and complaining have no idea how much work, money or time it takes.
Start your own board or join one of the many others rather then complaining.