[Number 6]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

well, i sure miss it - but i also understand the need for a cooling off period that was obvious from the sniping and lack of civility. hopefully the admin will restore it soon.

Me too. For those that won't miss it, well fine. No one ever forced you to go there. Well, from my point of view it was fun. I hope to see it back.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jandbrare

That's what it sounds like. No political posts, anywhere.

I started a Google Group to discuss local, The Villages politics: click here. Spin-off forums don't usually work, but I thought I'd see if there were enough residents interested in discussing local politics to make it worthwhile I started by posting about my present concern: the return of signs north of CR 466. You will have to join to post, but it's not hard to do. Join and leave any kind of post to show interest, please. Doesn't need to be serious or angry

Jerry

Jerry;
I followed your recent concerns about the local person who voted to ignore sign restrictions and who was also running for a public office. He lost that election.

I wish we could discuss those sorts of things...somewhere here on this forum, because I kind of know the feel of people here, the ones who are trustworthy and the ones who are kinda....blowhards?

I trust you, Jerry.

[billethkid]

all of you who are so "thankfull" for the demise of the political forum and thanking and praising the admin for doing it....you folks are kidding right........ya know it was an opt in forum. If you did not like it then opt out if you are or were in. If you don't like it why do you or did you go there.

And when you express your dislike why does it have to be with a durogatory or demeaning intent.......very similar to what you accuse or allege exist in the political forum.

How very hypocritical.

The problem as repeated over and over again was with a very small number of posters.......just like there is in this forum (or any other)!!!

btk

[jandbrare]

Originally Posted by EdVinMass

I never joined the political forum because it had little if anything to do with what’s happening right here in and around me.

Personally, I never understood why the political forum wasn’t set up with sub sections for each of the three counties and perhaps each of the numbered CDD’s. I mean think about it. Do you know who your CDD trustees are and what they’ve been voting on?

And how about the Amenity Authority Committee which ironically has no authority whatsoever. Who are the members and what are they voting on? That’s the kind of stuff I thought should be debated, not what’s being done on the other side of the world.

Perhaps a restructuring of that forum with a new focus would be a better alternative to a suspension altogether.

Just an outsiders thoughts.

Ed, take a look at the forum I started on Google Groups: click here. I had the same idea as you.

[EdV]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

ed - political discussions went far beyond cdds and counties! all of the local info you question we find in the district gov page. sometimes topics about the goings on there were brought into the 'general' forum and if discussion strayed the mod was careful to determine if/when a thread should move to 'political'.

just wonderin' - if you never joined 'political' how is it you are familiar with its set-up?

To answer your questions:

My point was/is that I thought the political forum might be better served if it was restricted to local district or county concerns rather than national and world politics.

Yes the district gov site has postings for each district including meeting agendas, minutes and budgets, but there’s no place to discuss or debate the issues with other members of your specific district. No big deal, just a thought.

And when I joined TOTV in 2008, that forum was wide open and all the political posts would regularly appear when you clicked the button to show just new posts. Without even opening the thread you could see the subject line so I knew what was being discussed. After numerous complaints, the Admin made membership in that forum restricted.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by billethkid

all of you who are so "thankfull" for the demise of the political forum and thanking and praising the admin for doing it....you folks are kidding right........ya know it was an opt in forum. If you did not like it then opt out if you are or were in. If you don't like it why do you or did you go there.

And when you express your dislike why does it have to be with a durogatory or demeaning intent.......very similar to what you accuse or allege exist in the political forum.

How very hypocritical.

The problem as repeated over and over again was with a very small number of posters.......just like there is in this forum (or any other)!!!

btk

I am one that feels we (the majority of members of TOTV) would be better off without it ever coming back. I am so sorry if that offends anyone, but that is my Opinion and nothing more. Why did I go there?? Good question. I guess I am interested in Politics, but not the negative parts. I would not know these Admin folks if I bumped into them, but I say they did THE RIGHT THING and if nothing else, and they do reopen the forum, maybe that small number of posters YOU refer too will have learned there lesson. I had issues on there myself and when warned by Admin, I stopped and pray I never make a negative remark again. Life is to short for us old folks and life in The Villages is to wonderful to mess any of it up. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by EdVinMass

To answer your questions:

My point was/is that I thought the political forum might be better served if it was restricted to local district or county concerns rather than national and world politics.

Yes the district gov site has postings for each district including meeting agendas, minutes and budgets, but there’s no place to discuss or debate the issues with other members of your specific district. No big deal, just a thought.

And when I joined TOTV in 2008, that forum was wide open and all the political posts would regularly appear when you clicked the button to show just new posts. Without even opening the thread you could see the subject line so I knew what was being discussed. After numerous complaints, the Admin made membership in that forum restricted.

no reason that local and county politics could not be brought into 'political' - i love that idea!

re discuss/debate with your district members - several new villages have set up websites - maybe yours did? maybe a search on totv would find it if one is here. if ya can't find one, maybe you could post a request to find someone who could/would set one up for ya! but then. such discussion could always be a thread within 'political'......

2008 - that's like ancient history around here!

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by billethkid

all of you who are so "thankfull" for the demise of the political forum and thanking and praising the admin for doing it....you folks are kidding right........ya know it was an opt in forum. If you did not like it then opt out if you are or were in. If you don't like it why do you or did you go there.

And when you express your dislike why does it have to be with a durogatory or demeaning intent.......very similar to what you accuse or allege exist in the political forum.

How very hypocritical.

The problem as repeated over and over again was with a very small number of posters.......just like there is in this forum (or any other)!!!

btk

thanx for posting - i so totally agree with your point of view!

[rp001]

What I saw there (PF)was unmitigated hate..There was a group of about 6 that pretty much ran amok, and would bully/browbeat anyone with dissenting opinions..One person would say something and 5 others would chime in.. None really interested in any opinion from "the other side". Definitely a "my way or the highway" approach. GOOD RIDDANCE..

[EdV]

Originally Posted by jandbrare

Ed, take a look at the forum I started on Google Groups: click here. I had the same idea as you.

Jerry, that’s nice that you are trying to get this going with a separate forum, but attempts in the past at spin offs were not very successful. The overall success of TOTV is a hard act to follow and was many years in the making.

Perhaps after the cooling off period and enough TOTV members request a district specific political forum, the Admin will consider a trial period. No national or world politics, just local district issues and certainly no partisan comments. And whenever a major issue is debated, allow for a poll so people can be heard without having to post a comment if they want to.

Think of the possibilities. As the build out of TV continues and more districts get turned over to the residents, candidates for Board of Supervisors could join TOTV and discuss district issues with their constituents. The potential benefits seem too important to overlook.

Who knows.

[Rebel Pirate]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Jerry;
I followed your recent concerns about the local person who voted to ignore sign restrictions and who was also running for a public office. He lost that election.

I wish we could discuss those sorts of things...somewhere here on this forum, because I kind of know the feel of people here, the ones who are trustworthy and the ones who are kinda....blowhards?

I trust you, Jerry.

Careful GG. In a non-political forum in the immediate aftermath of the action to eliminate the political forum, I created a post with an opinion very similar to yours above...and my post was taken down by the admin. Talk about over-reaction!!

[njbchbum]

[QUOTE=EdVinMass;542414]snip
Perhaps after the cooling off period and enough TOTV members request a district specific political forum, the Admin will consider a trial period. No national or world politics, just local district issues and certainly no partisan comments. And whenever a major issue is debated, allow for a poll so people can be heard without having to post a comment if they want to. snipQUOTE]


sorry, ed, i hope national/world 'political' WILL BE restored rather than as you seem to want to eliminate. i appreciate sharing such discussion with my totv forum subscribers...especially because those issues impact me far more than tv issues since i am but a snowbird in the villages.

please describe partisan comments - would these be personal opinions?

totv affords polls in any forum - and comments are not required in order to cast a vote - have done it several times i wanted my opinion to be counted.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by jandbrare

Ed, take a look at the forum I started on Google Groups: click here. I had the same idea as you.

well, jerry, i joined but am not sure i will participate too much since it is just local issues and because i can find no way to start a new topic, can only respond to your post that is there now.

good luck with your venture. it was good of you to try to make a go of totv's loss.

going back to searching for something closer to a totv substitute. ciao!

[capecodbob]

Originally Posted by John_W

All this political talk is a waste of time, if you had just read this morning's Sun paper you would know that tomorrow they are having a 'Victory Rally' at LSL, apparently they've already picked a winner!

How can you spout this political stuff and not get a warning? The political forum is gone, but you continue....

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by EdVinMass

Jerry, that’s nice that you are trying to get this going with a separate forum, but attempts in the past at spin offs were not very successful. The overall success of TOTV is a hard act to follow and was many years in the making.

Perhaps after the cooling off period and enough TOTV members request a district specific political forum, the Admin will consider a trial period. No national or world politics, just local district issues and certainly no partisan comments. And whenever a major issue is debated, allow for a poll so people can be heard without having to post a comment if they want to.

Think of the possibilities. As the build out of TV continues and more districts get turned over to the residents, candidates for Board of Supervisors could join TOTV and discuss district issues with their constituents. The potential benefits seem too important to overlook.

Who knows.

I agree absolutely.

Please reconsider, Admin.