[donb9006]

Originally Posted by Villageshooter

if ur day falls on a holiday u dont lose the day,, they just pick up the next day,,, 2 times a week is almost overkill anyway,, back up north we only had once a week, missing my trash pickup day ,, long ago left my worry chart! once again we have much to be thankful for if this is worry in our life! happy happy happy thanksgiving!

No, they don't...for me anyway...I'm out of luck until the next scheduled pickup.

[Jhooman]

Originally Posted by MikeV

Kool Aid? There's Kool Aid? Where's the Kool Aid? I want Kool Aid.

I was going to let this slide, but I can't.

So you want Kool Aid?

35 years ago in Jonestown Guyana, over 900 people died drinking the Kool Aid. The real truth, many people were injected, shot and forced to drink the Kool Aid. 300 of the people who perished were children, they are buried in a mass grave in Oakland, California.

My Mother and Sister were two of the victims.

I personally don't find the humor in the Kool Aid analogy.

Do you make jokes about the Holocaust?

Do you make light of the Jonestown event because the majority of the people were of color?

Bottom line, I'm offended by your humor.

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by Jhooman

I was going to let this slide, but I can't.

So you want Kool Aid?

35 years ago in Jonestown Guyana, over 900 people died drinking the Kool Aid. The real truth, many people were injected, shot and forced to drink the Kool Aid. 300 of the people who perished were children, they are buried in a mass grave in Oakland, California.

My Mother and Sister were two of the victims.

I personally don't find the humor in the Kool Aid analogy.

Do you make jokes about the Holocaust?

Do you make light of the Jonestown event because the majority of the people were of color?

Bottom line, I'm offended by your humor.

I'm sorry this happened to your family. I know that Redwitch was affected by this tradgedy.

I try not to reference TV with this remark, as it offends some people. We need to be sensitive about this tradgedy as it affected soooooooo many people.

[Jhooman]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

I'm sorry this happened to your family. I know that Redwitch was affected by this tradgedy.

I try not to reference TV with this remark, as it offends some people. We need to be sensitive about this tradgedy as it affected soooooooo many people.

Thank you for your kindness and courage in this matter.

[graciegirl]

I had heard this from JHooman before and she is a real person with real feelings. A wonderfully real person, a brave and funny one who is married to another wonderful soul.


I do feel with great respect to her a lot of people have stopped using that term on this forum but I don't think many really relate it to that awful event anymore.


I hope someday we can find a flip, crazy term that means that we have become intoxicated and swayed into a life changing event.


One that doesn't hurt anyone, but that in itself is very hard with so many, many, many years of life with so many, many circumstances represented by the readers of this forum..


I think we should all try to not take offense if the intent was not ill intended. AND to not GIVE offense if we know that someone would be hurt.


And I know a family that has a good reason to be offended when people casually use the word "retarded" but they also know that most people do NOT intend to hurt. Anyone.

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I had heard this from JHooman before and she is a real person with real feelings. A wonderfully real person, a brave and funny one who is married to another wonderful soul.


I do feel with great respect to her a lot of people have stopped using that term on this forum but I don't think many really relate it to that awful event anymore.


I hope someday we can find a flip, crazy term that means that we have become intoxicated and swayed into a life changing event.


One that doesn't hurt anyone, but that in itself is very hard with so many, many, many years of life with so many, many circumstances represented by the readers of this forum..


I think we should all try to not take offense if the intent was not ill intended. AND to not GIVE offense if we know that someone would be hurt.


And I know a family that has a good reason to be offended when people casually use the word "retarded" but they also know that most people do NOT intend to hurt. Anyone.

Gracie, I think the word retarded is extremely offensive and is to most people today. It wasn't for a long, long time and was completely acceptable in social situations. Fortunately, it no longer is even though it is used in legal and psychiatric circles because it has a very specific meaning.

I don't think jhooman nor I take offense when people speak of drinking the Kool Aid, we just feel like we've been punched in the gut. You're right, to most it is an innocent phrase and means nothing. To most from the Bay Area, it is a painful reminder of an obscene event. How it somehow became an acceptable term is beyond me. How any term that relates directly back to a tragedy can become part of common vernacular is well beyond my understanding and, quite honestly, not something I even want to understand.

So, I'm sorry for stepping on someone's fun and not finding any humor in hearing the phrase, but it is what it is to me and to many others. To be told we should grin and bear with it and just accept it is not something I understand. I can't imagine anyone would think it would be acceptable to use a phrase specific to the Holocaust or Lockerbie or 9-11 as a form of humor, yet, drinking the Kool Aid relates to a very specific, tragic event and has become a way to joke about one blindly following and acting without thinking. Maybe we should start speaking of surviving something trivial as hanging in a tree, as several did during the tsunami?

[Jhooman]

Thank you Gracie for your kind words.

However, that awful event must be remembered, so hopefully it will not occur again.

People want to forget the Holocaust, it happened, we must never forget or make light of the tragedy, the human life lost, the souls that perished.

Our society wants to sugar coat life and yes, I believe that folks don't intend to be harmful, but where does self responsibility occur. Ignorance of the law does not mean you are not responsible.

[Jhooman]

Redwitch you are my Hero.

[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by Jhooman

Thank you Gracie for your kind words.

However, that awful event must be remembered, so hopefully it will not occur again.

People want to forget the Holocaust, it happened, we must never forget or make light of the tragedy, the human life lost, the souls that perished.

Our society wants to sugar coat life and yes, I believe that folks don't intend to be harmful, but where does self responsibility occur. Ignorance of the law does not mean you are not responsible.

I hope not !!!! I also think that drinking the KOOL AID is a perfect way of referring to people who have blinders on and only want to see things their way

[rubicon]

I believe that a lot of time and resources could have been saved if we all looked back on our working days and recognized that whether it was a Holiday, vacation a sick day most of what we left was still there when we got back only now it would have a later date stamp.

So too with our those folks who arrive early so that those little green plastic bags disappear. It is also still waiting for them

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

I hope not !!!! I also think that drinking the KOOL AID is a perfect way of referring to people who have blinders on and only want to see things their way

Well stated!
We need to keep in mind that EVERYTHING is relative.
As well as perspectives on ANY given subject are biased by the view of the individual and CANNOT be applied as the standard for all others.

btk

[manaboutown]

Actually kool aid seems to be taking the rap for flavor aid which is what they probably drank at Jonestown. Drinking the Kool-Aid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Villageshooter]

enjoy life,, if they want roses,,, i have many to give away,,, just knock on the box here at the river

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

I hope not !!!! I also think that drinking the KOOL AID is a perfect way of referring to people who have blinders on and only want to see things their way

I think, to some extent, all people have blinders on and only want to see it their way.


You do. I do.


Who is to say, who is wrong? It is the intent that makes the difference. Some people always sound mad and against things and negative and some people try to keep peace and find good. But there is a little bit of good in the worst of us and a little bit of bad in the best of us.


I think most of us are trying to keep patient and see good and keep calm.

[Villageshooter]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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I think, to some extent, all people have blinders on and only want to see it their way.


You do. I do.


Who is to say, who is wrong? It is the intent that makes the difference. Some people always sound mad and against things and negative and some people try to keep peace and find good. But there is a little bit of good in the worst of us and a little bit of bad in the best of us.


I think most of us are trying to keep patient and see good and keep calm.

Gracie,, you got it kid!!! ur my role model!! I work hard to see something good in EVERYTHING!!!,, the harder you have to look,, the better it is when you find it,,,, keep posting Baby,,, we gotta sell some of those t-shirts that say: the only pee in lake sumter is pee wee herman