[BillyGrown]

Originally Posted by Normal

Marion County is a hard no on the Villages developing. Ocala wants nothing to do with a potential takeover of government by Villagers. A mistake clearly staring Wildwood straight in the eyes.

Wildwood was a dump before the Villages came to town. The Wildwood of 2002 was nothing like it is today.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

According to the budget letter submitted by the county administrator each year, these are the numbers of single-family building permits issued:
2019: 2,727
2020: 2,797
2021: 3,882
2022: 3,708
2023: 1,300
2024: As of August 2024, appears to be an increase over 2023

Not all single-family homes were built in the Villages but many of them were. The budget letter giving a total for 2024 should be available in the July/August timeframe.

Permits vs sales, I doubt very much that there were over 3,000 new homes actually sold in 2021 and 2022. I have the little booklets that they send out every quarter with the number of both new and used homes sold somewhere. If I find them or maybe someone else reading this will have them they will show the true numbers. I don't recall them ever selling 10 new homes per day .

[justjim]

OP, if you look at local maps you will see that The Developer was pretty much land locked to the north, east and west for large pieces of land that would make sense to invest and build on. Large pieces of Land to the south was available and at a price The Developer was willing to pay.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Permits vs sales, I doubt very much that there were over 3,000 new homes actually sold in 2021 and 2022. I have the little booklets that they send out every quarter with the number of both new and used homes sold somewhere. If I find them or maybe someone else reading this will have them they will show the true numbers. I don't recall them ever selling 10 new homes per day .

So with homes not selling and an inventory growing they submitted for 3,000 additional permits?

Or they are just amassing a pile of permits they intend to use someday?

Or there is another area in the county growing faster than the Villages that we don’t know about?

Number of homes in recent CDDs with at least CDD15 still under construction:
CDD 11: 2,055
CDD 12: 6,202
CDD 13: 8,062
CDD 14: 3,209
CDD 15: 3,700

23,000+ homes in 10 years is close to a 2,300/yr average. With a couple of slow years or homes that are not yet in a CDD, a 3,000 year or two is conceivable.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Normal

Marion County is a hard no on the Villages developing. Ocala wants nothing to do with a potential takeover of government by Villagers. A mistake clearly staring Wildwood straight in the eyes.

Yep, but the juicy tax revenue is hard to pass up....

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by BillyGrown

Wildwood was a dump before the Villages came to town. The Wildwood of 2002 was nothing like it is today.

Wildwood is still a dump, aside from the section along Powell south of 466A and the section of 466A between Powell and BV. Driving along 301 does not make me want to spend time in town.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by BillyGrown

Wildwood was a dump before the Villages came to town. The Wildwood of 2002 was nothing like it is today.

I remember my first visit to TV in mid-2008 (pre Brownwood, of course) coming through the outskirts of Wildwood on the Villages Shuttle from MCO. Looking out of the window in the fading light I thought I was in deepest bayou country, with all of the small, wooden homes nestled amongst the trees.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

The tee time computer system does not have the artificial intelligence to know whether requests are from North or South residents. Maybe open up your time and course requests to include more opportunities.

True, but I should have clarified if I'm putting in as a single I usually have no problem this time of year, but if I'm in a group doing 4 or more the tee time system does use you play history as a factor in the courses you get.

[AMB444]

Thanks everyone for responding.

I was just wondering if those that live in the north along the edges of TV could expect any sort of TV expansion or possibly a few new smaller neighborhoods.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by AMB444

Just curious why building is south only.

I'm sure there are established homes N, W, E.

But TV could offer a good price for the land?

At what point do you think TV developers will run out of land south, and then come back to the north?

Cause other districts north are built out and sold to districts (but what developers want they usually get) Highways/railroad tracks block east 301 and 441 west.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Wildwood is still a dump, aside from the section along Powell south of 466A and the section of 466A between Powell and BV. Driving along 301 does not make me want to spend time in town.

What? They just put in new parking garage in down town wildwood. Across 301, how like dodge that traffic crossing street?

[Normal]

Originally Posted by AMB444

Thanks everyone for responding.

I was just wondering if those that live in the north along the edges of TV could expect any sort of TV expansion or possibly a few new smaller neighborhoods.

There is plenty of land already purchased south of 44, why bother ever going north again?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

I still remember being told by a Villages agent "where else can you buy a matching brand new home with a full warranty for less than a pre-owned home".

A ridiculous statement, that's false on its face.

The market has decided that pre-owned homes are typically worth more than new, similar homes. TV doesn't get to control that, the market does and they've spoken.

Anyone who suggests the homes being built in the newer areas, compare with TV homes that were built 20 years ago, doesn't know anything about real estate.

As the Developer moved south, quality, amenities, convenience, atmosphere and aesthetics, also went south.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

A ridiculous statement, that's false on its face.

The market has decided that pre-owned homes are typically worth more than new, similar homes. TV doesn't get to control that, the market does and they've spoken.

Anyone who suggests the homes being built in the newer areas, compare with TV homes that were built 20 years ago, doesn't know anything about real estate.

As the Developer moved south, quality, amenities, convenience, atmosphere and aesthetics, also went south.

Except the AC units are brand new, the roofs have zero years on them, all the appliances are new, you are closer to the more active squares and the amenities are all brand new. In addition, there is great golf and you are much closer to the Orlando airport.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by AMB444

Thanks everyone for responding.

I was just wondering if those that live in the north along the edges of TV could expect any sort of TV expansion or possibly a few new smaller neighborhoods.

There's no place for The Villages to build up there. The properties are all already owned and occupied by other developments, including trailer parks with 99-year land leases, other manufactured home communities where there are dozens of homeowners who also own the properties, StoneCrest and Spruce Creek. Across the street from The Villages on 42, a developer has already built single family homes in front of other housing developments, some of which were just finished and put up for sale this year.