[JSR22]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm intimidated by crowds, but I'm not a dog.

Stay away from the tree lighting ceremonies.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by JSR22

Not true.

Yes they are……true service dogs are. Not talking about these made up service dogs.

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Yes they are……true service dogs are. Not talking about these made up service dogs.

How would you identify an authentic service dog?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

I really wish the dog owners would stop this craziness of having take their dogs everywhere.

I went to Home Depot as I walked into the door with my 8 yr old grandchild, I lady stopped right in front of us trying to control her Dalmatian. There was another dog a large Poodle heading right towards all of us and the dog we’re wanting to go after each other. This dogs were 2 feet away from my grandchild. As I grabbed my little one the dog owners were pulling their dogs with all their might it was a bit crazy and my grandchild was pretty scared.
As the Poodle left the store the aggressive dog stay in the store……..smh I looked at the owner and said this is why you leave your pets at home. Not is a sorry. The Poodle owner did apologize as he walk by us.

Well, I am absolutely amazed at your composure. I was a breeder, also a teacher of young children. I love them both, but had a dog approached one of my students in an unfriendly way, there would be no question as to what I would have done.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JSR22

The reason is the owner chose to bring the dog. I have never owned a dog that was intimidated by a crowd.

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse. Your dog may not be intimidated by a crowd but as others have mentioned, crowds and loud sounds are not good for dogs - so why subject them to it?

I’ve seen a lot of “Because I Can!” answers but no explanation for why you would choose to put a loved pet in such a situation.

[KeithRiz]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Because they're selfish, and don't care that their dog is probably only behaving itself because it's overwhelmed and unable to do anything else.

They don't care that the loud music coming from multiple speakers from the square's nightly entertainment is likely painful to their VERY SENSITIVE ears. They don't care that the only thing their dog sees when he's being walked through the crowd are legs and feet and it's likely one of the last things it actually wants to be doing. They will insist that their dog loves the attention, loves being out with mommy and daddy, loves the crowd, loves the music.

No - they don't. Your dog doesn't love it. Your dog loves you, and to the detriment of its own health, will obey you willingly and with a wag on his tail. You are damaging your dog's hearing. This is cruel, not love.

I love dogs and I would never EVER subject a dog to large crowds with loud music, unless it was my service dog. And even then I'd probably do it minimally, out of respect to the dog.

I say this about large dogs and small dogs. Pets don't belong in large crowds with live music. Add to this for the small dogs - they endure all of the above, but they also run a greater risk of being stepped on, dragged around, and "hounded" by well-meaning people who don't know any better and insist on "oooooh looka how cuuuuuute!" grabbing and petting.

There's one lady who -literally- drags her dog around - this pooch is probably 15 years old, can barely see, is lame with one REALLY bad leg and three somewhat bad legs. And gets - I kid you not - dragged. She walks faster than the dog can walk, and it can't keep up with her and falls and she just tugs it over the concrete square. That's the worst of them.

Some people can’t handle it when other people don’t share the same opinions. My dog loves meeting new people and dogs whenever he can.

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse. Your dog may not be intimidated by a crowd but as others have mentioned, crowds and loud sounds are not good for dogs - so why subject them to it?

I’ve seen a lot of “Because I Can!” answers but no explanation for why you would choose to put a loved pet in such a situation.

I have had dogs my entire life and owned a dog relate business for a number of years. I can tell if my dog is stressed. We take him to the Farmers Market every Saturday, and he enjoys going. I am fully capable of knowing if my dog is unhappy, and I would never leave him alone in a car.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse. Your dog may not be intimidated by a crowd but as others have mentioned, crowds and loud sounds are not good for dogs - so why subject them to it?

I’ve seen a lot of “Because I Can!” answers but no explanation for why you would choose to put a loved pet in such a situation.

Did you just conflate "dog sitting in a car" with "dog sitting in a hot car"? Two different things. Dogs generally love cars. Windows open, in the shade, with a water dish, likely =dog heaven.
Dog in car, windows up, in sunshine, on a hot day with no water likely = dog death.

But why equate the two?

And you have been given reasons for why people would bring the dogs to the squares. I will repeat them for you.
1. Human enjoys being with dog
2. Dog enjoys being with human
3. Dog is OK with crowds
4. Dog is OK with loud noises.

Note: to repeat what I and others have posted, not all dogs are freaked out by crowds and noise.

And, #5, it is allowed.

No real mystery here.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Did you just conflate "dog sitting in a car" with "dog sitting in a hot car"? Two different things. Dogs generally love cars. Windows open, in the shade, with a water dish, likely =dog heaven.
Dog in car, windows up, in sunshine, on a hot day with no water likely = dog death.

But why equate the two?

And you have been given reasons for why people would bring the dogs to the squares. I will repeat them for you.
1. Human enjoys being with dog
2. Dog enjoys being with human
3. Dog is OK with crowds
4. Dog is OK with loud noises.

Note: to repeat what I and others have posted, not all dogs are freaked out by crowds and noise.

And, #5, it is allowed.

No real mystery here.

Dogs sitting in cars : dogs going to squares.

Dogs sitting in hot cars : dogs going to extremely crowded squares.

And another “Because I Can!” answer

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by JSR22

It is the owner's choice to bring their dog not yours. There are many communities that do not allow dogs. If the dogs upset, you that much you can move to one of those communities. We moved here because of the multitude of championship golf courses and that TV is dog friendly.

And it's my choice to give you the stink-eye when I see you do it. MURIKA!

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Dogs sitting in cars : dogs going to squares.

Dogs sitting in hot cars : dogs going to extremely crowded squares.

And another “Because I Can!” answer

If you don't like the dogs around, you should have moved to a community that does not allow pets. There will be more dogs come January when the birds arrive.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

And it's my choice to give you the stink-eye when I see you do it. MURIKA!

OH God, NO!!!! Not the STINK EYE!!!

RUNAWAYYYYYY!!!!!!

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

good for socialization?? Like taking them to a fireworks display gets them to loud explosions. Or putting them out in lightning stom gets them to appreciate the wonder and beauty of wild weather.
"who care"? I, and many others who have been attacked, are allergic, feel dogs don't belong at every human focused event or business.
"get involved in other peoples business". By bringing a dog to a crowded publick event, you are messing with other people's business and their right and ability to enjoy the public festivities.
I encourage folks to leave their pets at home for the benefit of all, pet and human.

well said

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm intimidated by crowds, but I'm not a dog.

While I'm not intimidated by crowds, I tend to avoid them because people can suck...

I doubt I'd ever go to an event at one of the squares with as many people crammed into one place like they had at the tree lighting...

So, I guess my dog is safe...

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by eg_cruz

i really wish the dog owners would stop this craziness of having take their dogs everywhere.

I went to home depot as i walked into the door with my 8 yr old grandchild, i lady stopped right in front of us trying to control her dalmatian. There was another dog a large poodle heading right towards all of us and the dog we’re wanting to go after each other. This dogs were 2 feet away from my grandchild. As i grabbed my little one the dog owners were pulling their dogs with all their might it was a bit crazy and my grandchild was pretty scared.
As the poodle left the store the aggressive dog stay in the store……..smh i looked at the owner and said this is why you leave your pets at home. Not is a sorry. The poodle owner did apologize as he walk by us.

let's leave aside the issue of so-called service dogs in stores and restaurants . Let's concentrate on the issue of bringing them to the villages town squares while the music is playing and people are showing up to have a good time.
Would you bring your service dog to a party you had been invited to with say 20 to 30 guests mingling, drinking and having a good time maybe dancing. No it would be rude for you to be sitting in their living room all night with scooby do or poolside with your dog interfering in the party process. The same applies to the town squares. The people go there to dance ,drink ,co-mingle, not to sit next to someone's 130 lb dog . Does this make it clearer, it is rude. The party is for the people, not a dog show or for any other barnyard pet. Wish i owned a t-rex, think i could make my point better then, but no worries, he would have a leash on