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Why are the taxpayers, and not the developer, paying for the expansion of the village

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Old 10-06-2019, 03:46 PM
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As I posted before "They have nothing to worry about.... their jobs are safe!"

I mean think about it..... how do you vote out a commissioner if you don't know you have one?
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It is my understanding ( from an earlier post)that when the County gave the green light to continue building it was with the understanding that only if the County ( thus the tax payers) paid for all the road construction and road improvements that were needed. Thus the tax increase. The County probably doing the math with the increase knew they would be paid back big time with the additional tax dollars plus more commercial properties coming in time bringing their tax dollars also. Think it was a win win for both the County & The Developer plus ALL the jobs available to the trades performing the work. JMO
...and when the work is done, ALL of those people performing the work will be out of work, and collecting unemployment, and not paying taxes at all. Income tax? Nope. Property tax? Nope, they'll rent, so no property tax at all. Seasonal people don't buy homes in the places they are hired to perform seasonal work. They rent, and pay zero property taxes.
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Old 10-06-2019, 08:06 PM
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It is my understanding ( from an earlier post)that when the County gave the green light to continue building it was with the understanding that only if the County ( thus the tax payers) paid for all the road construction and road improvements that were needed. Thus the tax increase. The County probably doing the math with the increase knew they would be paid back big time with the additional tax dollars plus more commercial properties coming in time bringing their tax dollars also. Think it was a win win for both the County & The Developer plus ALL the jobs available to the trades performing the work. JMO
The developer bluffed the county and won. If the county said no to paying for the roads/improvements, do you really think they would have walked away from the project? Hardly, they would have still moved forward, albeit maybe with the same or altered plan. I give the developer credit. They took a shot and won. Sumpter county has weak, unsophisticated commissioners and the taxpayers are paying the price.
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The developer bluffed the county and won. If the county said no to paying for the roads/improvements, do you really think they would have walked away from the project? Hardly, they would have still moved forward, albeit maybe with the same or altered plan. I give the developer credit. They took a shot and won. Sumpter county has weak, unsophisticated commissioners and the taxpayers are paying the price.
Or commissioners affiliated with the developer...
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:47 PM
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The developer bluffed the county and won. If the county said no to paying for the roads/improvements, do you really think they would have walked away from the project? Hardly, they would have still moved forward, albeit maybe with the same or altered plan. I give the developer credit. They took a shot and won. Sumpter county has weak, unsophisticated commissioners and the taxpayers are paying the price.
When you have your own guys on the Commission, there is no need to bluff.

I think you misunderstand what happened. County Commissions are of crucial importance to any developer doing business in any county, and The Villages Developer has taken control of the Sumter County one--to his benefit and the detriment of Sumter County taxpayers.
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Being from Ohio I had never heard of impact fees. Doing a little research I found that they were declared illegal in 2012 by the state Supreme Court and considered a tax which had not been submitted to a vote. Roads and other infrastructure expenditures are paid for through realestate taxes as is done in Sumter County..
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:41 PM
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I never said the workers doing the construction. All I said was they were working which means their spending money while working which is good for whatever county or wherever they are living. Food. Beverages gas oil electric etc are being bought and will be for a good many years. There is NOTHING that can be done to stop what’s started at this point. Just pay the bill and hope for the best for next years tax bill. The county won higher taxes, more roads, more houses, hopefully more businesses moving in which means more commercial property and more jobs for those looking for work
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Is there any state in the south that puts the needs of the worker bee ahead of its plantation owners? Florida is in transition, as a whole, eventually it will flip. But the plantation we live on, The Villages, will not.


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I sure hope The Villages won’t become like a lot of cities up north in my lifetime!
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Being from Ohio I had never heard of impact fees. Doing a little research I found that they were declared illegal in 2012 by the state Supreme Court and considered a tax which had not been submitted to a vote. Roads and other infrastructure expenditures are paid for through realestate taxes as is done in Sumter County..
In Florida, Impact fees are alive and well. Go to the website of any county, and you’ll see what they are in that county.
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I sure hope The Villages won’t become like a lot of cities up north in my lifetime!


It won't. The family overseers will make sure of that.


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Sounds like the Florida AG should take a look.
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