[rjm1cc]

Why does a customer pay a base rate and then a graduated amount? The graduated rate begins at 0.

there are also additional charges for maintenance/upkeep, etc

I believe water to be more expensive here than any other state in which I lived.[/QUOTE]

I thought the same thing about water being more expensive here until I looked at an old water bill from New York. The price per gallon here is less but we only paid the access fee once a year which is equal to the cost that we pay here monthly. What I don't understand is how clean drinking water can be cheaper than dirty irrigation water?[/QUOTE]

In general you can look at your utility service in several parts.

The first is the plant where they make the produce - gas, electric water etc.

The second is the cost of getting the utility from there plant to your home.

These two costs relate more to the number of customers served than to how much you use. Thus the base charge could be because you have access to the utility even if you do not need to use them for part of the year.

The last charges is based on how much you consume.

[JoMar]

Cheaper than where we came from also. Personnel costs, pumping stations, well service, state and federal inspections, taxes, chemicals, capital costs, water main inspection and maintenance all have to be paid before you get gallon one.

[ColdNoMore]

"Why is water so expensive?"



Because they think we're an effluent demographic?





Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Base Potable Water: $8.78
0-3000 gallons of potable water: $2.07/thousand
3001 gallons and up of potable water: $4.14/thousand
5% potable water tax

Base Irrigation Water: $8.04
0-7000 gallons of irrigation water: $2.17/thousand
7001-14000 gallons of irrigation water: $3.63/thousand

Potable water cost more than irrigation water.

Why does a customer pay a base rate and then a graduated amount? The graduated rate begins at 0.

there are also additional charges for maintenance/upkeep, etc

I believe water to be more expensive here than any other state in which I lived.[/QUOTE]
Then you haven't lived in Georgia. Georgia was the most we ever paid plus whether for the home or irrigation the sewer was charged and at a higher rate than the water.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by rhood

Been here over ten years and our water bill has never gone over $16. It is a fraction of what is was in Kentucky.

rhood: I am not challenging your statement but I am both impressed and confused as to how you have never paid more than $16 a month for water.

Another poster was kind enough to list the water dept rates.

Base rate for portable water is $8.78
Base rate for irrigation water is 8.04
total base rate= $16.82

you are paying less than the base rate?

And added to the above are additional flat charges
tax on potable water 5% sewer base tax $12.07
and we haven't even addressed the two/three tier charges for actual water use. What county do you reside? and I wonder what county the poster who listed the water rates resides? Methinks there are different base rates going on here and their application. Hmmmm

Base Potable Water: $8.78
0-3000 gallons of potable water: $2.07/thousand
3001 gallons and up of potable water: $4.14/thousand
5% potable water tax

Base Irrigation Water: $8.04
0-7000 gallons of irrigation water: $2.17/thousand
7001-14000 gallons of irrigation water: $3.63/thousand

Potable water cost more than irrigation water.

[biker1]

I was the poster of the rates. They do vary by CDD or county, not sure which. I am in Sumter County, CDD 10.

Originally Posted by rubicon

rhood: I am not challenging your statement but I am both impressed and confused as to how you have never paid more than $16 a month for water.

Another poster was kind enough to list the water dept rates.

Base rate for portable water is $8.78
Base rate for irrigation water is 8.04
total base rate= $16.82

you are paying less than the base rate?

And added to the above are additional flat charges
tax on potable water 5% sewer base tax $12.07
and we haven't even addressed the two/three tier charges for actual water use. What county do you reside? and I wonder what county the poster who listed the water rates resides? Methinks there are different base rates going on here and their application. Hmmmm

Base Potable Water: $8.78
0-3000 gallons of potable water: $2.07/thousand
3001 gallons and up of potable water: $4.14/thousand
5% potable water tax

Base Irrigation Water: $8.04
0-7000 gallons of irrigation water: $2.17/thousand
7001-14000 gallons of irrigation water: $3.63/thousand

Potable water cost more than irrigation water.

[rubicon]

Why does a customer pay a base rate and then a graduated amount? The graduated rate begins at 0.

there are also additional charges for maintenance/upkeep, etc

I believe water to be more expensive here than any other state in which I lived.[/QUOTE]

I thought the same thing about water being more expensive here until I looked at an old water bill from New York. The price per gallon here is less but we only paid the access fee once a year which is equal to the cost that we pay here monthly. What I don't understand is how clean drinking water can be cheaper than dirty irrigation water?[/QUOTE]

Where in New York it makes a difference? also upstate New York subsidizes
New York city's transportation, insurance rates, etc I assume water also

[rubicon]

My purpose for this post is strictly informational. If I am reading the posts correctly there appears to be different base rates ,etc for each CDD. Why?

Is there a difference in quality of water in each district why are some CDD's base charges and rate per thousand > < than others?. Why do some CDD's have 3 tier charges while other only 2 tier?

I've visited the water recycling plant. they do a wonderful job. Their end product is fertilizer which gets shipped out. It costs customers to process this water but I am not certain if any portion of their profits are credited to customers accounts?

[biker1]

Regarding the number of tiers of pricing, you may not see the upper tier(s) on your bill unless you use enough water to be in that tier. Therefore it may not be obvious how many tiers there actually are.

Originally Posted by rubicon

My purpose for this post is strictly informational. If I am reading the posts correctly there appears to be different base rates ,etc for each CDD. Why?

Is there a difference in quality of water in each district why are some CDD's base charges and rate per thousand > < than others?. Why do some CDD's have 3 tier charges while other only 2 tier?

I've visited the water recycling plant. they do a wonderful job. Their end product is fertilizer which gets shipped out. It costs customers to process this water but I am not certain if any portion of their profits are credited to customers accounts?

[Bogie Shooter]

The Utilities serving the residents of The Villages are:
�Village Center Service Area (Lake County and District 1 in Sumter County) is owned by Village Center Community Development District.
�Little Sumter Service Area (District 2, 3 in Sumter County and District 4 in Marion County) is owned by Village Center Community Development District.
�North Sumter County Utility Dependent District (District 5, 6, 7, 8 and a part of District 9 in Sumter County) is owned by North Sumter County Utility Dependent District.

RATES

Village Center Service Area
http://districtgov.org/departments/U...ule%202015.pdf

Little Sumter Service Area
http://districtgov.org/departments/U...ule%202015.pdf

North Sumter County Utility Dependent District
http://districtgov.org/departments/U...ule%202015.pdf

More information can be found at:
VCDD Utilities/Amenities

[Gerald]

LOL you all still do not understand how it works.
And who is actually running the water company and making a huge profit from it.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by biker1

Regarding the number of tiers of pricing, you may not see the upper tier(s) on your bill unless you use enough water to be in that tier. Therefore it may not be obvious how many tiers there actually are.

biker: I don't use the 3rd tier on my irrigation and it always is published on the bill.

The Water Utility uses normal usage and if someone exceeds this amount notice is sent out explaining there maybe a leak etc

However there are obvious variables here. first comes to mind snowbirds, those homes with pools or spa's or both, the number of people in your home, number of guests visit, how often you water.

We lived Tennessee and New York never had an irrigation system. did in Iowa and Minnesota. all were larger homes than in TV

I read an article concerning the high usage of water by those Mc''manisions along the Florida coast. they are on a one tier system and the author was critical of how they were using more and paying less.

We all spoken of bottling companies coming in and emptying the aquifers free of charge yet we are paying based on a tiering system. If you never used a drop of water you still be paying for the base rates sewer system and taxes. I know what you are going to say but basically what this amounts to is that you are paying for water utility's maintenance costs. if your water system goes who pays for it?

the tier system is a means for developers and realtors to keep developing. It is my understand that there has been a water battle going on for those utilities located from the Georgia border down to the atlantic coast

I'm only interested at the moment in understanding the politics and the resulting operational system side agreements etc. I know I pay more here than in other states I don't know why. the water utility will tell me usage but then usage is greater along the coast with much bigger estates and last I read they are on a single tier system??????????????????????????? its understand and not argument I seek

[biker1]

That is interesting - my bill (from Central Sumter Utility LLC) only shows the tiers of water that we actually use. If our irrigation system is turned off for a month we only see the base rate.

Originally Posted by rubicon

biker: I don't use the 3rd tier on my irrigation and it always is published on the bill.

The Water Utility uses normal usage and if someone exceeds this amount notice is sent out explaining there maybe a leak etc

However there are obvious variables here. first comes to mind snowbirds, those homes with pools or spa's or both, the number of people in your home, number of guests visit, how often you water.

We lived Tennessee and New York never had an irrigation system. did in Iowa and Minnesota. all were larger homes than in TV

I read an article concerning the high usage of water by those Mc''manisions along the Florida coast. they are on a one tier system and the author was critical of how they were using more and paying less.

We all spoken of bottling companies coming in and emptying the aquifers free of charge yet we are paying based on a tiering system. If you never used a drop of water you still be paying for the base rates sewer system and taxes. I know what you are going to say but basically what this amounts to is that you are paying for water utility's maintenance costs. if your water system goes who pays for it?

the tier system is a means for developers and realtors to keep developing. It is my understand that there has been a water battle going on for those utilities located from the Georgia border down to the atlantic coast

I'm only interested at the moment in understanding the politics and the resulting operational system side agreements etc. I know I pay more here than in other states I don't know why. the water utility will tell me usage but then usage is greater along the coast with much bigger estates and last I read they are on a single tier system??????????????????????????? its understand and not argument I seek

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

"Why is water so expensive?"



Because they think we're an effluent demographic?





Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

Eggscelent!!!!!!

[PennBF]

There appears to be a problem between usage and charging, Our water bill has gone up 20% in April. We checked our billing from VCDD over the last 15 months and the average is 20% less than our April bill. In fact taking the low and high against April as compared to the last 15 months the low is 15% low on the lower side and 20% low on the high side. We had an independent inspector check our irrigation system and a plumber to inspect the system. Both said we have no problems and we have not changed our irrigation schedule. When we called VCDD they said it may be because in March they installed a new meter in our home? That did not make sense because of the many years the bills have been pretty steady. If the meter had been off 20% that would mean they were underfunded for all these years and no one would believe that. We checked with another user and they had the same problem in April. Anybody in April have any idea's as to what is going on??