Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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World’s Largest Retirement Community Set to Borrow $180 Million
(Bloomberg) -- The Villages, a 57,000-acre Florida retirement community, is looking to issue almost $180 million in high-yield debt to finance more homes. Much more about it at link |
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Current stats: 170,000 retirees 83,400 existing homes 2.0+ retirees per home. . Goal: 260,000 retirees 130,000 additional homes 213,400 total homes 1.2 retirees per home. . . The added portion maf work out Adding 260,000 retires adding 130,000 total homes is about 2.0 retirees per home. . The seeking to grow the population to over 260,000 doesn't make sense. The seeking to grow the current population by 260,000 does make sense. not surprising given from college professor on Twitter, link following copy of tweet I made an unsettling discovery in my undergraduate class on financial planning last week. While explaining mortgages, I asked my 38 students this question: if you buy a $400,000 house and pay 20% in cash towards the purchase, what will be the amount that you finance? Not a single student could tell me the answer. Despite the fact that they are all juniors and seniors majoring in business. I added more questions: what is 30 percent of 80? 60 percent of 90? They didn’t know. The closest they got was when one student said, in response to my query of “40% of 70”, that “I know it’s 4 times 7 but I don’t remember what that is.” Another student helpfully added, “28.” They explained to me why they couldn’t answer these math questions: they were never taught multiplication tables, percentages or fractions during their K-12 schooling. Instead, they were taught how to use a calculator. Without one, they are not able to do basic arithmetic. I later asked the dean about this, and he lamented that this isn’t a thing just for our university’s students; it’s a thing for their entire generation, nationwide. When I was in K-12, the fierce debate among parents and educators was whether to allow calculators in class. The calculators won. Today, the debate is about AI. And like before, the tech will win. But will that truly be a victory? Rowan University #college #math #loans #CFP #financialplanning Ric Edelman on X: "I made an unsettling discovery in my undergraduate class on financial planning last week. While explaining mortgages, I asked my 38 students this question: if you buy a $400,000 house and pay 20% in cash towards the purchase, what will be the amount that you finance? Not a singl… / X |
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The Villages has always issued bonds to pay for the construction of the infrastructure of each new Community Development District. After the homes are sold, this is the basis of the Bond that is attached to every home and that you pay on your property tax bill every year. The maintenance of the infrastructure is also charged to you annually on your property tax bill. The Villages also issues bonds for the construction of the amenities. The Developer manages the amenities until the CDD is complete, then sells them to the CDD authority. Part of your amenity fee goes to pay the construction cost via the bond. There is a class periodically that explains how The Villages is run. I highly recommend it. |
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So what? If you wanted to open a restaurant would you fund it personally or go to the bank?
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Live and learn - my take on how TV is run
From the Oct 7th, 2026 Village Center Community Development District minutes -> as found on www.districtgov.org Kevin Stone, District Counsel, advised that Agenda Items 4.A. and 4.B. could create a conflict of interest for Supervisors employed by The Villages Landowner; however, a Board Supervisor can vote if the conflict is disclosed. Per the Florida Commission on Ethics, a Board Supervisor who has been elected via a Landowner Election on a one-vote per acre basis can complete a Form 8 annually. Mr. Stone stated for the record that Chair Flores, Vice Chair Evans and Supervisor Willis all work for the Landowner and have filed the annual Form 8 with the District Clerk. Form 8 (get out of jail card-free http://www.ethics.state.fl.us/Docume.../Form%208B.PDF While I am no longer on the NSCUDD board, I remember being told while on the board that a member of the NSCUDD board would be allowed to vote on the purchase of CSU from the developer even though he was a relative of the developer. It's a loophole that I am not comfortable believing truly resolves an apparent conflict of interest. Last edited by twoplanekid; 10-19-2026 at 03:41 PM. |
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Four ways:
1. For almost anything you can call Customer Service and ask. I’m sure they can give you information about the class. 2. A great way to find out about the Villages operations is to go to districtgov.org and run a search. In this case you would search for resident academy and you would find this page. 3. There is a shorter CDD Orientation that you can find at districtgov.org->Services->Resident Services. 4. Ask here on ToTV and someone will reply
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Why do people insist on making claims without looking them up first, do they really think no one will check? Proof by emphatic assertion rarely works. Confirmation bias is real; I can find any number of articles that say so. Victor, NY - Randallstown, MD - Yakima, WA - Stevensville, MD - Village of Hillsborough |
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First off, $118,000,000 builds the infrastructure for less than 2500 homes ($50,000 Bond/Home). Secondly, infrastructure bonds are not used to build Championship Courses or Recreational Centers. The District PURCHASES the Recreational facilities from the Developer. Many will recall, the famous IRS case, regarding the bonds use to buy the Amenities. $111M in Bonds is a drop in the bucket in The Villages. According to Sumter Landing CDD’s FY2025 audited financial statements, approximately $1.074 billion in principal and future interest remained to be paid on its recreational revenue bonds as of September 30, 2025—$599.0 million of principal and $475.1 million of future interest.” (This has nothing to do with the Bonds for infrastructure that residents pay ... that's separate.) That's ONE CDD. Anyone care to guess what the total outstanding Bond Liability is for all the CDD's combined? Anyone want to guess, how much of your Monthly Amenity fee is used just to pay interest? The number is staggering. |
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That article is so lacking in detail that what this bond will cover is anyone's guess.
Is it the Developer who took out the bond that my CDD is paying through the money it collects from me? Or, did my CDD take out the bond in order to reimburse the Developer? If it's the latter then perhaps the bond in this article has nothing at all to do with the infrastructure bonds. Heck, the article actually states: The proceeds of the upcoming bond offering will be used to finance the construction of 3,860 new residential units and add amenities like 27 holes of Championship golf and recreation centers, according to a presentation for investors.Is there some reason not to believe that? 260,000 retirees in 130,000 homes makes sense if you make the reasonable assumption that there will be two retirees per home. If that is the final goal then approximately 48,000 homes would need to be added over the next two decades which would work out to 2,400 per year. Sumter County has added an average of 3,700 homes per year over the last six years with the best year having added 4,181 homes - the numbers could work.
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Why do people insist on making claims without looking them up first, do they really think no one will check? Proof by emphatic assertion rarely works. Confirmation bias is real; I can find any number of articles that say so. Victor, NY - Randallstown, MD - Yakima, WA - Stevensville, MD - Village of Hillsborough Last edited by Bill14564; 10-19-2026 at 07:18 PM. Reason: Better understanding of the article |
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How did you come to this conclusion?
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