[macawlaw]

The Rec centers just need my neighbors. The first two times that I went to the pool, the same couple was there. I saw the wife prod her husband, and he got up and went inside. A few minutes later the employee came out to check my ID.

The first time didn’t go so well, as I had been in the pool and my hair was wet. She eventually decided that it was me and I could stay.

My hair was dry the second time, and the encounter went better.

Unless there is a huge problem with people using the facilities without an ID that I don’t know about, I see no need for a new system.

[Pwanderson]

Yes I have seen folks being escorted from the pools! I have also seen requests to not have adult beverages in the pool. This was disregarded! What is the employee to do?

[llaran]

I think many of the Apt complexes have their own pool. I think it is a non-issue

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Pwanderson

Yes I have seen folks being escorted from the pools! I have also seen requests to not have adult beverages in the pool. This was disregarded! What is the employee to do?

No beverages are allowed in the pools, adult or otherwise. Outside the pools (at the chairs and tables) all beverages are allowed, adult or otherwise.

Glass containers are not allowed.

[Bob.Betty]

They used to have people at the entrance to the pools checking id's. What a novel idea.

[macapecod]

It won't keep all the nonmembers out, but would help. Only thing better would be to hire a full time person just to monitor EACH and EVERY pool. That would be very expensive! Most Rec centers have only one person inside at the desk. Impossible for them to also monitor who is coming into the pool and/or the other outdoor activity areas, as they are often very busy inside.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by macapecod

It won't keep all the nonmembers out, but would help. Only thing better would be to hire a full time person just to monitor EACH and EVERY pool. That would be very expensive! Most Rec centers have only one person inside at the desk. Impossible for them to also monitor who is coming into the pool and/or the other outdoor activity areas, as they are often very busy inside.

They are not always busy. They are supposed to visit the pools a few times per day, and they are only assigned 2 or 3 pools. The problem is that they don't enforce the ID rules.

[Bob45]

The only expense would be installing the card readers at each location. We already have the card. We use it at the drive gates.

[Marmaduke]

Originally Posted by BigDawgInLakeDenham

Why doesn't my white privilege just open all the gates and doors??? (sarcasm) I'm too new to TV to be disgruntled about "outsiders". I'm in the southern most area where an adult pool is hard to find, and my limited experience at a family pool was less than optimal. A 3 foot pool does nothing to relax a 6'2" man when the teenie tiny 5 foot area is packed full of old ladies talking so loud over each other. It was totally disgusting and I couldn't last staying more than 5 minutes. No one at that pool looked like an "outsider".

With that said...what am I paying $189 a month for? You want to tack on more for a card that you want? You really think once you submit to paying extra that it would be a one time fee??? Please folks, let's not suggest to TV to take more from our retirement checks for them not enforcing rules that they wrote down already. Have you already polled people about having anger over "outsiders" to the point they'll pay extra to eliminate them? How do you identify these infiltrating scoundrels? What behaviors do they exhibit that irritates you? I need to know before I attempt to visit a pool again.

You're way too NEW to this site be insulting of fellow Villagers, imo.
No one here talks like this.... calling women names.

I may expect a 30 or 40 year old son living with their parents to be classifying female Villagers as "Old Ladies", but not one of our Vibrant 50, 60, 70 ,80+ year old Villager men.
Be a lot nicer, and it'll be fine.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Marmaduke

You're way too NEW to this site be insulting of fellow Villagers, imo.
No one here talks like this.... calling women names.

I may expect a 30 or 40 year old son living with their parents to be classifying female Villagers as "Old Ladies", but not one of our Vibrant 50, 60, 70 ,80+ year old Villager men.
Be a lot nicer, and it'll be fine.

[lynnschindel]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Has anyone ever witnessed someone being told to leave a swimming pool because they did not have an ID card? If that is not happening, the current system is worthless and does need to be changed.

I play Mah Jong at Big Cypress on Monday nights. Two young men, about 18 or 19, entered as I did, and asked to play pool. The gentleman at the desk asked for their IDs, which they couldn't produce. He said no ID, no entry, so they left

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Has anyone ever witnessed someone being told to leave a swimming pool because they did not have an ID card? If that is not happening, the current system is worthless and does need to be changed.

Most people that I've talked to have zero anecdotes about seeing outsiders using our pools. To be honest, why would someone bother? Our pools are nothing special really. I think some people just feel the need to have something to complain about and this is the low hanging fruit.

[Wayne Mudge]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

There’s a suggestion in another online paper to upgrade the ID system. Basically, install a lock system at pools, and probably rackets courts, the equipment rooms, etc
you can open the locks with your NEW ID or a code on a temp ID, usable for the length of your stay.
This would come with a hefty price tag.
Would you pay, let’s say $50, for a new ID; that leads to better monitoring of the amenities.

I don’t think this will eliminate all outsiders from using the amenities, but it would make it harder

Are outsiders really creating a problem here? if so, how?

[eyc234]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I don't blame the rec center employees because they are only doing what they are told to do. But, if management hires someone to do a job, they should require them to do it. Why have ID cards and employees to scan them if you don't enforce the rules? It is a waste of money. Do you really want to pay someone to check ID's if they let everyone in anyway. I don't agree that people would need to be forced to leave. Most people would leave if they were told to leave. But, if necessary, you can call the police for a trespassing crime. I have seen this happen at restaurants in The Villages. The police are happy to remove a trespasser.

If it is that easy please sign up for the job a keep us posted on how it goes

[eyc234]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

The average cost for door card reader access control systems is $3,350 per door and as high as $4300 per door. There must be electrical service provided for each door as well as WIFI service. There is an additional annual fee based on the number of users which with TV’s number of residents would be at least $5000 per year. Even adding the card readers only to the pools would cost almost a half million dollars alone! Multiply the installation cost by the 100 pools in TV and the initial cost would be $335,000-$430,000 plus the $5000 due every year Just for the pools.
Now multiply that figure by how ever many other types of activities where you want to have card reader locks installed; now you're talking MILLIONS of dollars.

Anyone want an nice big increase in your amenity fees to cover the door lock system?

What is the big deal anyway? Who cares if a handful of nonresidents use the facilities (if there even are any abuses)? If you know someone is there who shouldn’t be, then go get an employee.
There are no hordes of outsiders using the pools. These complainers (and I think there aren't that many) need to just try and chill out and not act so high and mighty. People complaining about "outsiders" are what gives TV residents a bad reputation as a bunch of entitled uppity prigs.