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Old 12-23-2022, 09:00 AM
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A travesty of justice.

Maybe if these bicyclists and their clubs(more like gangs) learned to ride responsibly these type accidents would never occur.
Getting hit from behind is the fault of the bicyclists? I'm afraid we have no common ground on this issue.

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Old 12-23-2022, 09:02 AM
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5 years for a 91-year-old with no criminal history is extreme. It's not like she intended to hurt the bikers. Yes, she screwed up leaving the scene but c’mon 5 years.

Hopefully, she appeals the sentence and the VN is why most people hate the media. For all we know it was some old 1998 Mercedes with 200,000 miles on it.
5 years for the damage done and her actions after the fact is barely adequate. The victims in this case will suffer lifetime repercussions and I feel much more sympathy for them than the driver.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:09 AM
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Sir, I am 86, I will bet you that I am in better physical condition than you are. I will surpass your daily exercise routine with out a doubt.
Can you do or have you ever done a tri-athlon?
I don't think that physical condition is the issue here. There are inevitable declines that come with age, and those declines happen to all of us. Things like slower reaction times, narrowing peripheral vision, Various impairments in hearing and vision, ongoing decline in depth perception, impaired judgment (a biggie), etc. etc. all go to making drivers more dangerous to themselves and others as age progresses.

I am 75 and can play singles tennis for two hours--3.5 - 4.0 level (though age is having an effect there). I also play golf (use a pull-cart), engage in archery, help with farm work, etc. I weigh six pounds more than I did when I graduated high school. I believe I am in better physical condition than most men here my age, and many younger, but I stopped driving at night two years ago, and drive during the day only in good weather and on roads I am familiar with. I recognized the inevitable deterioration that advancing age has on my driving skills and have no wish to put myself or others at risk in the road.

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Old 12-23-2022, 09:11 AM
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Coleman has minimum and maximum security
Coleman is a Federal Prison. She will serve time in a State Prison as her crime was prosecuted under state law.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:22 AM
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Not fair, but there should be testing. We have a neighbor in his 90's who is sharp as a tack and in good health. We should not create buckets that don't differentiate. There are people in their 70's who should not be driving.
Right there is the problem. If you believe a neighbor in his nineties is as sharp with reactions and reflexes as someone in their sixties and even seventies, you’re not being realistic. I don’t care how “sharp” they are.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:36 AM
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5 years for the damage done and her actions after the fact is barely adequate. The victims in this case will suffer lifetime repercussions and I feel much more sympathy for them than the driver.
If she stayed at the scene they would’ve still had the same injuries.

They gave her 5 years not for the injuries but for leaving the scene.

If there is some evidence that she was drunk or driving recklessly I will change my mind.

I believe she deserves some punishment but at 91 and with no criminal history 5 years is a death sentence.

I really believe there was more behind the sentencing than just the crime.
I wonder if she was driving an old Toyota Corolla if she would’ve gotten this much time.

It's a travesty all around but I think people are suicidal riding bikes around the TV. Join a gym.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:38 AM
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Five years is most likely a death sentence, but she was pretty calculated in her moves after the accident. Looks like you have to serve 85% of the sentence in Florida.

https://supremecourt.flcourts.gov/co...013-711(1).pdf
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:40 AM
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I am glad this woman was charged and will be penalized even at 91 she should be held accountable but there are more ways to hold someone accountable than a prison or jail sentence. She should have been given a 30 day sentenced followed by 5 years of ankle monitor and home confinement not able to leave home for anything other than doctor's appointments. Our prison and jail system cost tax payers money and it is over burdened. There is little to no medical care and she will most likely be tortured due to this one issue.It will cost US the tax payers probably $75,000 a year to house her if not more if she has medical issues. I advocate for alternative sentences for many reasons. I hope she also had to pay money to these people that she hurt.

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A 91 year old woman Villager was recently sentenced to 5 years in prison for a hit and run accident that seriously injured two bicyclists in 2020 near Morse Blvd in The Villages. After hitting the bicyclists, she got out of her car, saw the people she hit, and then drove home. She was later arrested when she tried to get her car repaired in Gainesville. The judge denied her request to delay serving her term and she was immediately taken into custody. Although it took more than 2 years to get justice, I wish more crimes were handled that way.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:49 AM
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I don't know any of the facts. Was she drinking, on drugs? Multiple offenses? Sound state of mind? Just seems like a possible huge burden on the state.

Granny doesn't need to pay for housing, car expense, property tax , income tax, insurance, food, medical expenses, utilities anymore and still get her pension, social security and IRA income. Do you think you could keep her a bit longer so our inheritance can build up a little more?
Convicted felons are ineligible to receive Social Security benefits for any months they are incarcerated. Hopefully someone who knows her name will report her incarceration to the Social Security office in Leesburg. Usually state courts and prison officials cannot be bothered to do so.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:53 AM
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Meh. I would have been really impressed if all the elderly after age 85 have to surrender their drivers license.
so I drive to Leesburg 5 or 6 days a week to gym, drive to Orlando 3or 4 nights every month to Salsa dance and eat out most nights , so you think next December when I turn 85 I will become so feeble that I shouldn’t drive anymore , anytime you would like to come for a long walk ,or a fast 3 mile run or 10 mile bike ride , or do my gym workout feel free to drop over
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:57 AM
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A travesty of justice.

Maybe if these bicyclists and their clubs(more like gangs) learned to ride responsibly these type accidents would never occur.
That’s generic criticism with no basis. I’ve had more people in cars try to hit me or scare me when on my bicycle purely because, like you, they find bicyclists annoying. That’s a great motive for ending up in jail if successful at hitting someone, but not a valid or legal reason to ride too close to a bicyclist who has the same legal right to use the road.
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:00 AM
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Angry Prison???

why should we now have to support her for five years?, She should have been stripped of her wealth to provide for the injured parties, then left to suffer a shameless lifestyle of poverty....this would have been a better sentence...
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why should we now have to support her for five years?, She should have been stripped of her wealth to provide for the injured parties, then left to suffer a shameless lifestyle of poverty....this would have been a better sentence...
Why? Because our system is about justice, not revenge.
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:15 AM
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Not fair, but there should be testing. We have a neighbor in his 90's who is sharp as a tack and in good health. We should not create buckets that don't differentiate. There are people in their 70's who should not be driving.
There are people of all ages who misuse and abuse their driving privileges. There are people of all ages who have medical emergencies. Age discrimination is just another form of prejudice.
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:24 AM
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I'm happy to see the older folks are keeping in shape and still got it. My Dad is in his mid 80s and he plays softball in an 80's league. Those old guys are an inspiration.
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